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4evermacc Posted on 10/11/2019 09:58
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First of all good luck to Macc today, unlike some others on here i want a Macc win, and a good draw that will see us through to round 3.

second a Question, who will pay the Police Bill for today ? with all the threats of boycotts bluff and bluster, they will have to be at the ground. Is it expected that the club will pay (it would presumably have been a no police game in normal circumstances ?

and Third, given that some staff are on strike will iFollow be working today ?

Come on Silkmen, i am going for a 3-2 win with a new star emerging

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lymeview Posted on 10/11/2019 10:18
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We will be very much the underdogs but like you I am hoping for a win. I feel that a cup run will be in the club's best interests. Fans will have a variety of different opinions on today's game but I certainly respect the opinions of other loyal fans.
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boomer22 Posted on 10/11/2019 12:08
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A cup run will Prolong the Agony and give Amar an escape route whilst defeat will open the door for the new owner. Itís a perverse situation but one which will determine where we go to from here.
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4evermacc Posted on 10/11/2019 12:35
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Personally cant get my head around a situation where we would want to lose but as lymeview said absolutely bang on we have always respected all opinionions on here give or take the odd dogs abuse. [cr]

If it would keep everyone happy i support losing 1st half !!
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Littleboroughblue Posted on 10/11/2019 14:03
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Congratulations Amar the asshole.
I have watched our beloved Silkmen for 66 years seen plenty of highs and lows but well done I am seeing our club hit the lowest point ever. Just get the hell out of here no players the playing surface is a disgrace no facilities open you have ruined our club
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boomer22 Posted on 10/11/2019 16:55
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Yes I left at 4-0 as I couldnít stand it any longer no disrespect to the young lads but we should never have been out through all this ignominy.
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Madkev Posted on 10/11/2019 17:17
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On the upside though, this could be one of the lowest points in the clubís history so for the 700 or so macc fans who witnessed it, wear it as a badge of honour!

I might get a t shirt made saying; ďif you think this is bad, you didnít see us play Kingstonian [cr]ď
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macchiavelli Posted on 10/11/2019 17:40
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I thought the Silkcubs did their best today, but really the game was a travesty.

Something has to be sorted out before next Saturday. Playing a youth side against Mansfield would be like throwing Christians to the lions.
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bluepc1951 Posted on 10/11/2019 17:45
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We went, it's a disgrace what this owner is doing to the very heart of our club. If he ever passed the fit and proper test he doesnt any more. The best we can hope for is that, based on today's events,the League step in, side with the players, and, if they have any executive powers to use them against the owner.
The owner clearly doesn't care about the club ONLY about his ability to minimise his losses. The only upside I see is that today's events will bring this to a head but it's going to get worse before it gets better.
Now worrying about next Saturday's game.
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metz1984 Posted on 10/11/2019 18:10
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Amar you should hang your head in complete shame,these promising kids been thrown in at the deep end and having their confidence dented the club on the verg of being another bury and all because of your greed,yes usung the club nowadays for your own financial gratification...[:(!]YOU ARE A DISGRACEFULL OWNER WHO LIVES ON GREED..
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jefft Posted on 10/11/2019 18:35
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The boys did well to hold it at 0-4, heroic really, with some really promising displays.
For, what in effect was a team of 8 schoolboys + 3 loanees, they were fantastic and just looked exhausted rather than defeated and those of us who did stay until the end, gave then a lot of encouraging well-deserved applause.
Will this experience break them? Not at all. There was a time when my son was in Macc Boys and suffered some very heavy defeats. We always stayed to the end, picked them up, dusted them down and started again at 0-0.
In the very last game of their last season as Macc Boys players, won The Cheshire Youth Cup against Winsford Diamonds, a team of roughnecks most of whom looked well over-age......(just saying....), the memory of which still burns bright in my sonís mind.
And to be able to say you actually played in the FA Cup at 16......what a priceless experience!
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mike4macc Posted on 10/11/2019 19:04
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I believe there were 5 loanees. It could have been 10-0
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Smoky2 Posted on 10/11/2019 19:18
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The lads were brilliant , and were deservedly applauded off at the end ( the Sleely family were there. and said they were impressed - so fingers crossed .)
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saltpie Posted on 10/11/2019 19:48
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Regarding bluepc 1951s comment about fit and proper person test raises an interesting point .
The Alkhadis have owned the club for about 14 years and probably would have passed the test then but now wouldn't .
Surely an owners finances should be examined every couple of years.
As the Accrington owner said on the Inside Out programme recently a person could pass the fit and proper person test but a year or two later his financial situation could have changed , as we are finding to our cost.

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bluepc1951 Posted on 10/11/2019 20:52
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Saltpie , it seems to me that you can only judge it by actions. It shouldn't really matter about his actual financial position it's only all about what he does, and failing to honour contractual commitments to the league, the players and staff multiple times should clearly demonstrate to the league that he is unfit.
He demonstrably couldn't care less. There is no way back for him from here, he's had multiple opportunities to sell up and to cut and run, but he's stuck it out because of greed and now totally lost the fans.
It's over now, so just go away and leave those of us that really do care about this great little club to somehow go forward.
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Nigel_Shaws_Right_Boot Posted on 10/11/2019 22:52
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No, Sandbach Ramblers was a low point.
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WillMill Posted on 10/11/2019 23:45
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The team did well, the majority had never played senior football and they had never played together. The pick for me were Evans and OíKeeffe from the seniors and Fregapane and Kyobe from the youth squad. Well done!
The next fixture for the club is Shrewsbury on Wednesday evening. It is of little importance, but I fear we have seen a glimpse of the future today.

And the protests? The boycott had a notable effect on the gate, and the sympathetic chants from the Kingston fans show that from their own bitter experience they understand the difficulties that lies ahead for us. The protest outside - Unless it raised significant money for a hardship fund or something positive then it added nothing to finding a way forward.
If they are not already the SST should be in serious discussions with Supporters Direct to look for ways forward alongside the EFL and PFA.
I repeat below the note I posted on another thread yesterday :-

Unless Amar is selling out he will not let anyone have any significant share or say in the Club.

However we may well be entering the endgame for his tenure. The value of the Club is likely to reduce week by week.

If we lose tomorrow the potential income for this season drops significantly.
If we are thrown out of next years competition the loss will be magnified.

Even if the first team squad continues to play in the League their trust in Amar has gone. Unless there is a dramatic change supported by EFL and PFA the players will not want to stay a moment longer than they have to.

Come the new year we can expect that any player who can leave will do so. Replacing those that leave with any quality may be impossible.

Relegation would surely follow and the National League is not likely to view the present structure leniently.

I will continue to support the present team which has great potential but the value of the Club is falling week by week.



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lythamandblues Posted on 11/11/2019 00:54
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Further to WillMill's comments, the likes of Scott Wilson were able to leave in the summer due to the (repeated) failure to pay wages - which resulted in them becoming free agents.

The same scenario seems to exist for the current crop of players so, as WillMill has noted, players (would become free agents and) could leave. I'm pretty sure that free agents can sign for Clubs at any time, i.e. they are not constrained by transfer windows, e.g. Crewe signing a free agent (Christian Mbulu) on 30-Oct-2019.

As has also been noted by others, dependent upon the wording of the deals that are in place, it remains to be seen if any Club requests the (early) return of players currently at the Club on a loan basis - hopefully the 'parent' Clubs will see the present situation as "character building", and allow them to stay.


If the current situation is not resolved in the next couple of days it looks as though, if Macc intend to fulfil the fixture, the young lads will be involved again at Shrewsbury on Wed evening - with £10k and progress to the knockout stages of the Checkatrade up for grabs.

According to the Community & Education Football Alliance League (CEFA) website, both the U19 'A' team (hosting Sheffield Wednesday 'A') and the U19 'B' team (hosting Preston North End 'B') are due to be in action on Wed afternoon, so goodness knows how this is all going to pan out - what a mess.


In response to a tweet posted on the official Club twitter account after the game today, one (of the many disgruntled supporters) person noted that the Club's handling of events - non-payments, no communication, use of kids etc. - has been "Classless and Clueless" which seems to be a very polite, summation of the ongoing crisis...
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macchiavelli Posted on 11/11/2019 07:10
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'Classless and clueless' sounds almost Ipstone-esque.
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southern_blue Posted on 11/11/2019 07:33
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Thoughtful and measured post as usual Willmill. However, as one of those who was at the protest I think you are being unfair with your comment that it added nothing positive to the way forward.

Due to the short notice and opacity of MTFC communications it would have been almost impossible to organise a fundraising event at this short notice.

However, we were able to show our support for the players and Manager for the inexcusable situation they find themselves in. It may have got some press coverage as well.

On another note, people will have given careful thought as what to do for the best yesterday. I know die-hard fans who attended, who stayed away, who attended the protest; and some who protested and then went in. All of those who did so would have done what they thought was in the best interests of MTFC and I respect their choice.

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WillMill Posted on 11/11/2019 09:54
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SB - The club is hurtling towards a precipice and if we go over there may be no return. Only the EFL can persuade Amar to take his hand off the throttle. After Bury they may be prepared to act quicker. The SST with the support of Supporters Direct may influence and accelerate that. Time is short.
Disorganised protest and other visible activity is a distraction and will change nothing.

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macchiavelli Posted on 11/11/2019 10:04
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Relying on the EFL to save us from the precipice is really not a comforting thought.

A further statement from them, outlining what actions they are taking (if any), would not go amiss.
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English_Sam Posted on 11/11/2019 10:09
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I think the consensus amongst the vast majority of the supporters is that we are ready for a change . The problem is organisation and reaching an agreement on how to achieve the objective. I think it is also quite important that we donít fall out with each other and channel the anger where it is due.

I am far from convinced that we are near to a solution and are probably nearer to a Bolton situation than a Bury one at the moment.
The owner will not give up his position without stripping what he can from the club . The question is what are we going to do about it as a collective.
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johnsmart63 Posted on 11/11/2019 10:54
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What is to stop an owner of any club letting the players that currently are under contract, break their contracts and leave due to non payment of wages. Then go to a pub and ask if anyone fancies a game and let them play for £10 a week and collect the EFL money and the parachute monies next season offering £10 a week players a game. If the bills get paid are any rules being broken?

I really hope it doesnt come to that!

Asking for a friend
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WillMill Posted on 11/11/2019 10:55
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I totally agree ES. The SST has access to help and advice which could be effective. There are buttons to press. I have no active involvement but something needs to happen.
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oilboil Posted on 11/11/2019 10:58
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johnsmart63

Technically nothing. So long as the players are registered as playing staff with the league.

It is likely that we would keep getting hit with points reductions for knowingly fielding a sub-standard side and the Conference does not need to accept us as a member if they think we aren't viable

But at least until the end of the season nothing they can do so long as he doesn't field a non-registered player and he pays the bills that might get a court interested in closing us down
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Ron_Ipstone Posted on 11/11/2019 11:54
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The fact that the players were present yesterday in the stands indicates to me that they were hopeful of their wages coming through at the last minute.

The teamsheet had to be in by 11.45 am and up until that moment it would have been possible for the first team to have played.

The threat had been made by the players earlier in the week and an indication of the earnestness of it was the failure to attend for training.

My reading of all this is that the club is insolvent and Amar does not have access to cover the expenses of running it, or if he does, then he does not have the inclination to spend it.

The last hearing of the winding up petition was adjourned on 23 October for a "few weeks". When it comes back before the court we will have a better idea of where we all stand.
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boomer22 Posted on 11/11/2019 15:26
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SST is silent. We need a lead to follow.
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