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macchiavelli Posted on 20/10/2019 12:35
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1st Round draw takes place tomorrow night. (Live on BBC2 from 07.10 pm).

Who will we get? Salford, Tranmere, Stockport or York? I believe those gentlemen from Moss Lane are still in! [:D]

We might even get a bye thanks to Bury disappearing.

£36k for the winners.
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silktown Posted on 20/10/2019 12:45
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It won't be Stockport !
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bigsexy2007 Posted on 20/10/2019 12:47
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36k to Amars fund if we win...

Home tie against Potters Bar [^]
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metz1984 Posted on 20/10/2019 14:52
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to true thats where it will go
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samuelljackson Posted on 20/10/2019 14:58
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Nantwich away local derby chance for telly [LOVE][LOVE]
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Ron_Ipstone Posted on 20/10/2019 15:39
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Maidstone United and Dover Athletic are still in the comp. A pre-Christmas trip to Kent would be a welcome reminder of our battles with these two outfits in the National League.
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bollingtonblue Posted on 20/10/2019 15:40
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Whether AA pockets the money or not he has only two ways to stave off the club going in to administration. One is income from an FA Cup run and the other is from the sale of players in January. I suppose a third way is for him to persuade a friend or family member to put some money in.
It looks increasingly like AA has no operating businesses and is relying on the Football club for any of his income.
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boomer22 Posted on 20/10/2019 17:38
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We are due a run in this now and with this team it is well possible. However it would be nice to have a Brackley or Potters Bar tie at home.
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saltpie Posted on 20/10/2019 18:27
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It would be even nicer to be last out of the hat and get a bye and the money that goes with it .
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4evermacc Posted on 21/10/2019 11:52
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For the geeks we are ball no 24

alty are 55
poor fail 34

sunderland are 43
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oilboil Posted on 21/10/2019 19:31
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Well we got a tie at home we should be able to win, and if we weren't going to be the lucky ones to get a bye then I'm happy it went to little Chichester instead...
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Dobby Posted on 21/10/2019 19:44
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Great draw with important prize money at stake.
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macchiavelli Posted on 21/10/2019 20:26
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Don't expect hordes of Kingstonian fans.

Their average home league gate this season in the Isthmian Premier is 279.
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The_Boss Posted on 21/10/2019 20:32
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Put best XI out. Win the game. Get the prize money. Move on.









Then realise where the prize money will go.
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boomer22 Posted on 21/10/2019 23:02
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As I said would be nice to get a minnow. Yes pocket the dosh and onward.
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Paddysboyz Posted on 22/10/2019 01:07
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Great draw on paper for us but please treat the minnows with respect; play our strongest team and hopefully move forward towards a massive tie in the third round [^][:D].

Kindest regards

PB [smi].
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macchiavelli Posted on 22/10/2019 08:27
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I always have great respect for minnows. It's what we used to be (and still are in some respects!)

Over simplified, I know, but £36k could settle half the HMRC claim of £72k.

Whose pocket might the dosh be heading towards, I wonder?
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saltpie Posted on 22/10/2019 09:38
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I wonder if this game will be played on the Sunday when the BBC do a round up of certain games .
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crazyface Posted on 22/10/2019 09:55
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LOL...no
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Waloc Posted on 22/10/2019 10:15
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Not surprised at their low crowds

I think they have no home ground and are cuckoos somwhere in SW London?
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Star_Laner Posted on 22/10/2019 10:32
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They share a ground with Corinthian-Casuals and play about 5 miles from Twickenham.
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Waloc Posted on 22/10/2019 11:15
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Thanks Star

Think they shared with Wimbledon for a time
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macchiavelli Posted on 22/10/2019 11:15
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On their MB, some of their fans were disappointed at having drawn a league side with the lowest home gates in L2.

Could still be a culture shock to see a couple of thousand fans when they're used to a couple of hundred though.

I wish all their fans who make the journey 'oop North' a pleasant trip, and I hope they will find our fans and facilities hospitable, but this really is a game we ought to be winning.
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Star_Laner Posted on 22/10/2019 11:53
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One chap on their forum said if they play like they did against Dartford they'll win easily. [:D]
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lythamandblues Posted on 22/10/2019 13:05
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I understand that Kingstonian helped out the newly (re-)formed AFC Wimbledon, allowing them to ground share during The Dons long road to return to the Plough Lane area, but then 'overstretched' themselves and lost outright ownership of the ground, Kingsmeadow.

They continued as tenants of the local council, alongside AFC Wimbledon and Chelsea Women FC, until a couple of years or so ago when Chelsea decided (with Wimbledon's move back to their spiritual home area being approved), they wanted sole occupancy, and bought the ground.

Since then they've been ground sharing, whilst trying to secure (a site for) a stadium of their own.

You can understand them being underwhelmed with the draw - having seen off Walton Casuals, March Town United, Weston-super-Mare, and Steve King's Dartford to reach this stage - a home tie against a London / SE EFL side would, no doubt, have been ideal.

Re: the 'minnows' tag, don't forget home debacles against the likes of Billingham Synthonia (FA Trophy), Borrowash Victoria (FA Cup) and Gretna (FA Trophy)...
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oilboil Posted on 22/10/2019 13:43
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From our point of view it would have been better if Kingstonian had lost to Dartford - we'd have got a huge crowd coming along just to get the chance to BOO Kingy...
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CaptainWobblehead Posted on 22/10/2019 14:28
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Winnable tie. Not even the doom merchants can moan at that.
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lythamandblues Posted on 25/10/2019 16:49
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Kingstonian's biggest game of the season, so far, and their fans have to traipse to Cheshire for a Sunday lunchtime kick off - though no doubt the rail (replacement bus) service will be it usual reliable self...

Wonder if this will see the 'winner takes all' Checkatrade Trophy tie at Shrewsbury being put back 24 hours?
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saltpie Posted on 25/10/2019 16:58
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Well you got that one wrong Crazy Face.
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onthebrink Posted on 26/10/2019 00:35
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What would have been wrong with 3pm on Saturday?
A shocking choice of day & time to have moved it to
- it's Remembrance Sunday 🌺
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macchiavelli Posted on 26/10/2019 07:44
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The change isn't popular with Kingstonian fans, but their club will also benefit from £12k or so of TV money.
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metz1984 Posted on 26/10/2019 13:12
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It is with me I can attend now.more Sunday games please kick off bit later though 2 or 3pm
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lythamandblues Posted on 26/10/2019 15:46
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As macchiavelli has noted, whilst not the £75k that Clubs receive for 'live coverage', per The FA website each of the Clubs involved in the 8 ties the BBC have selected for Sunday coverage will receive £12.5k.

"...The following matches will be available either as extended highlights or single camera footage via the BBC, unless stated otherwise:

Saturday 9 November 2019
• Maidenhead United v Rotherham United (3pm GMT) – BBC extended highlights

The FA fee for extended highlights on a Saturday is £6,750 per club.

Sunday 10 November 2019
• Leyton Orient v Maldon & Tiptree (12.45pm) – Overseas broadcast
• Chippenham Town v Northampton Town (12.45pm) – BBC extended highlights
• Barnet v Fleetwood Town (12.45pm) – BBC extended highlights
• York City v Altrincham (12.45pm)
• Wrexham v Rochdale (12.45pm)
• Bristol Rovers v Bromley (12.45pm)
• Gateshead v Oldham Athletic (12.45pm)
• Macclesfield Town v Kingstonian (12.45pm)

The FA fee for extended highlights, overseas broadcast or live single camera footage on a Sunday is £12,500 per club."
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macchiavelli Posted on 27/10/2019 10:10
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If we get 'single camera', which will presumably cover the whole game, would this be enough to keep any fans at home?

Coverage on this basis is fairly rudimentary, but you would still get to see the entire match FOC and without any hassle.
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spoons Posted on 27/10/2019 13:02
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Can they pay in advance so we can pay the wages?
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DavidCrawt Posted on 29/10/2019 20:15
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Kingstonian built Kingsmeadow Stadium and it was the launchpad for their rise into the National Conference and winning the F.A. Trophy two years in a row.
When AFC Wimbledon were formed, they allowed them to groundshare but Kingstonian overstretched themselves financially and ended up losing the ground to AFC Wimbledon.
Chelsea have now bought the ground from AFC for use by their Ladies team, AFC are heading to Wimbledon soon and Kingstonian have been thrown out.
They shared with Leatherhead for one season and are currently sharing with Corinthian Casuals for the second season.
So if this game goes to a replay prepare yourselves for a visit to the King Georges Field Stadium in an area called Tolworth, which is in the Royal Borough of Kingston upon Thames.
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DavidCrawt Posted on 29/10/2019 20:22
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This is the biggest Kingstonian game for 19 years.
It was that long ago that they were last in the First Round of the F.A. Cup and they did rather well.
They beat Brentford, Southport & Southend away in rounds 1, 2 & 3 before going out 1-0 after a 1-1 draw at Bristol City.
Awaiting in the fifth round were Leicester City!
If only Graham Poll had blown his whistle 30 seconds earlier, they would have been there.
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macchiavelli Posted on 30/10/2019 05:59
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Thanks for the background info, DC. If you are travelling up for the game, hopefully you will find the natives mostly friendly![:D]

These moments don't come along too often for smaller clubs, and, as I'm sure you are aware, we have massive financial problems ourselves ATM, so we could use a Cup run.

Let's hope the football takes centre stage.

Enjoy the game.
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DavidCrawt Posted on 30/10/2019 08:11
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I am going to the game. I fly out to Spain on the 5th but am coming back for the weekend so that I can go. Kingstonian went through hell with their financial crisis. A guy came in to ‘save’ us but just asset stripped and sold the ground to AFC Wimbledon. They have sold it on and we are now homeless. This looks like being a good game and I know that us K’s fans will enjoy it, win, lose or draw. Our average gate is only around 280 but it’s looking like we could have 200 going. Most are disappointed that we will be in blocks H, I & J as they would have preferred to be behind the goal.
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macchiavelli Posted on 30/10/2019 09:07
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We tend not to open the away end behind the goal unless we know there are significant numbers travelling.

Small clubs like ours always seem to be at the mercy of owners who don't genuinely have the interests of the club at heart.

Respect to anyone prepared to travel back from Spain to support their local team! [^]

I don't know what sort of game to expect from the Ks. Are you direct, or do you like to pass it around and build from the back?

I'm sure it will be an interesting game.

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DavidCrawt Posted on 30/10/2019 13:46
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It's maybe best that we don't go behind the goal as there is no roof so we could get wet and will have to sing louder to be heard. K's fans are well known for making a lot of noise and we have some great songs. Being under a roof will help our sound to travel. I am flying back and my Susan is currently trying to find me a Senor Hat or Sombrero to wear so look out for me. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to tell you our style of play so you may just have to wait to find out. I'm really looking forward to this.
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macchiavelli Posted on 30/10/2019 19:00
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Don't worry, DC. I'm sure we will have had you watched. May the better team win!
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lythamandblues Posted on 05/11/2019 09:57
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I don't think too many players have turned out for both clubs over the years, e.g.: Andre da Costa (Feb / Mar-2013), Reneil 'Ricky' Sappleton (2009-11) and Graeme Tomlinson (1998-2000); but it looks as though one may have transformed himself from one TV character to another...

Having provided admirable service for the Silkmen (1990-95), including a memorable goal on an otherwise miserable day at Merthyr Tydfil, and penalty saving heroics at Chesterfield; STEVE 'Lurch' FARRELLY was a member of the Kingstonian side that won the FA Trophy in 1998-99 and then went on to retain it the following year.

However, by this time - from descriptions in The Non League Paper (20-Oct) - it appears that Steve had metamorphosed from The Addams Family's beloved butler in to SpongeBob SquarePants.

The article, which was tied in the with the draw for the latest round of this season's FA Trophy competition, was looking back on the K's achievements in a piece entitled "We'll Never Forget Glory Days!".

In the article it both notes that (reflecting on their quarter final tie at Northwich Vics in 1998-99, and with the K’s leading 1-0): “...And the big finish could not have been choreographed better by Busby Berkeley (one for the kids there), K’s nine-foot Scouse goalkeeper Steve Farrelly imperiously swatting away a spot-kick with the very last touch of the game...”, and (in addition to being 9ft tall; in the Final) “...And Marc McGregor had the best of the few-and-far betweeners in the first half, when he was one-on-one with Farrelly, who looked nine-foot wide when making the save...”.

Quite the transformation. [smi]
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richardbajor Posted on 07/11/2019 10:20
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Farrelly was one of our key players in the K's Conference years.

Not sure if he did the same party trick at Macc but it was hugely enjoyably when an opposition forward stood in front of him when he was about to do a drop kick. He made no attempt to run/kick around the forward, just went right through him, got the free kick and left the forward with a few bruises that made him think twice before doing that again! No referee had the nerve to award a penalty.
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