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macchiavelli Posted on 12/03/2019 20:35
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We are currently rock bottom of L2.

Notts County and Vale both winning at HT.
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leedsblue Posted on 12/03/2019 20:43
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As are Morecambe. Depressing stuff.
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bollingtonblue Posted on 12/03/2019 20:53
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Not 100% sure about this but I think it should be further to fall rather than farther. Anyway rock bottom and trap door come to mind.
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pontiuspilate Posted on 12/03/2019 21:05
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When you see Morecambe 3-0 up against a team who beat us comfortably on Saturday adds to the depression, given we play Yeovil Saturday itís possibly a better result them losing to Vale, but regardless of what happens tonight I cannot see us staying up, something I thought was achievable after the Oldham game 😩
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boomer22 Posted on 12/03/2019 21:12
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Don't write off Carlisle they score goals and could win 3-2.
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boomer22 Posted on 12/03/2019 21:20
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Got one back already
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pontiuspilate Posted on 12/03/2019 21:21
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Come in Carlisle 👍👍
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leedsblue Posted on 12/03/2019 21:35
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Straight fight now with Yeovil I would have thought.
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fossey Posted on 12/03/2019 21:35
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We certainly need to beat Yeovil now
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boomer22 Posted on 12/03/2019 21:38
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Yes a true six pointer get all the Guns blazing.
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pontiuspilate Posted on 12/03/2019 21:57
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If we donít beat Yeovil then we are down, Notts County have revived their hopes so itís perm 2 from 3
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macchiavelli Posted on 12/03/2019 22:16
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You are right bb. My apologies. Farther is usually used regarding physical distance. [B)]

I have now corrected my heinous error!
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bollingtonblue Posted on 12/03/2019 22:25
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I would say that beating Yeovil on Saturday is now almost obligatory if we are to stand any chance of survival.
Mathematically we could go down to the last 6 games and then have to win them all, but the chances of that are farther away than infinity. A win on Saturday would further our interests.
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macchiavelli Posted on 13/03/2019 07:18
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Furthermore, we are the only 'cellar dweller' without a win in our last 7 games, when all our rivals seem to be reviving.

It doesn't look good.
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Jesus Posted on 13/03/2019 09:13
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I echo those thoughts around me... If we don't beat Yeovil, it's probably time to start planning for relegation. Truth be told, I can't even believe I'm saying it but here we are.

Port Vale: Ship steadied. Just shows what could've been
Morecambe: Undergoing a revival. Can't see them struggling now.
Yeovil and Notts County: Still scrapping it down at the bottom with us... but both teams are picking up the odd win which we seem unable to do at the moment.

We can still stay up. String 3-4 wins together and it can go right down to the wire and leave us just about edging it.... but lets be honest fellas, we sure as sh*t don't deserve it this time round.

I just hope we beat Yeovil to make a go of it because is we lose on Saturday, Seasons over [DFS]

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macchiavelli Posted on 13/03/2019 09:49
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Found it very depressing that Morecambe smacked in FOUR against MK, who are on the verges of promotion, and totally dominated us last week.
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onthemoss Posted on 13/03/2019 09:52
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It doesn't look promising now and it seems that non league football is quite likely.
The club and Sol should have a clear plan in their minds for the pre-season and next season.

The undesirables are:

1. yet another wasted pre-season
2. an unhappy manager (in reality this may not be the right job at the right club for Sol - given his previous experience in the game)
3. a manager that doesn't recognise the benefits of or can't harness the 'against all odds spirit'

In making their plans Sol, AA + MB must be honest with themselves and each other.
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bollingtonblue Posted on 13/03/2019 10:31
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Well if we do go straight back down to the National League at least we will have the Football League parachute payment for the first two seasons, which means that our budget should not be one of the smallest in the league. Possibly our best chance of getting promoted back again would be in that first or second season, but like others I do wonder if SC is the right manager at our cash strapped club, but to be fair he has only had less than half a season in his first job.
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leedsblue Posted on 13/03/2019 10:43
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Let's not forget that Sol Campbell inherited an absolute mess.
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pauljames Posted on 13/03/2019 10:46
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I can only echo what's being said. Even if we were to scrape a win at Yeovil, based on what I've seen over the past few games we are not showing any sign of consistency which might suggest we could turn it around in the remaining nine games. There are too many reasons to list as to why we are where we are, but one that sticks out for me is that we have just not been good enough as a result of some very mediocre player recruitment both in the summer and latterly in January. This together with a rookie manager who has so much to learn has most certainly not helped.
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Grassroots Posted on 13/03/2019 11:27
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leedsblue.........you are spot on. This shambles of a club/season is not Solís fault.

If anything it started when (date I say it and risk offending all and sundry) a certain Mr Askey bailed out on us.

It was always going to be an uphill struggle.
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supermacc Posted on 13/03/2019 11:39
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Yes the player recruitment in January look rather Ďkid in the candy storeí now doesnít it.

Four quality players who would have added something to the starting XI could have been signed with the significant additional budget that was made available to Sol.

The best odds on Macc for the drop are currently 2/5 though this will shorten massively if the worst happens on Sat

If ever we needed an against all odds performance....
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LancsMacc Posted on 13/03/2019 12:07
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The reason for the clubís current predicament stems from its non-league mentality and lack of ambition. Some of the decision making over the summer both on and off the pitch was baffling.
Why is it down to the SST to fund pitch improvements, pie heaters etc? Why do we still rely heavily on several volunteers? (all of which deserve a medal). It's been obvious for years that the pitch has needed new drainage, but nothingís been done, like everything else around the ground its just left. Are the club waiting for the SST to fund this too? Damaged seats, moss covered roofs, dirty fasciaís, weeds in the guttering, no hot water in the toilets, broken scoreboard, I could go on and on. It comes across that the club don't mind relegation as there's a parachute payment, the wage bill will be lower and they'd not have to invest in the floodlight improvements required by the EFL! There's another early push for season tickets, but buying one is doing nothing more than keeping the club going in its current guise.
Maybe Macc will beat Yeovil, it'll trigger a revival and we'll stay up, unlikely but possible. If that happens can anyone honestly say things will be better next season, that lessons will be learnt and the future will be bright under the current set up?
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JH23 Posted on 13/03/2019 14:05
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It is hard not to look at what has happened at Port Vale and think what might have been had JA been at the helm.

Yeovil on Saturday is must win.
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Jesus Posted on 13/03/2019 14:39
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I expect some of the financial issues this season can be traced back to the firing of a manager on a 3 year deal after half a season
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macchiavelli Posted on 13/03/2019 15:30
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I think LancsMacc has it about right.

Appointing a better manager and players might well have ensured survival this season, but it wouldn't change how the club is run.

Hard to be optimistic that things will change for the better any time soon.
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Dobby Posted on 13/03/2019 17:12
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Only just realised that both Jesus and PontiusPilate are both Macc fans which seems a bit of a contradiction.
Still, if we lose on Saturday Jesus will have to be having a word with his father if we are to survive.
Or perhaps Macchiavelli could get PontiusPilate to eliminate our opponents one by one.
We need a miracle Jesus.
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saltpie Posted on 13/03/2019 17:36
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I think it would be a miracle of Lazerus proportions.
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Jesus Posted on 14/03/2019 09:06
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Amen
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4evermacc Posted on 14/03/2019 10:46
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On the other hand............

There is only one way from here and that is UP.

I believe with the points still available its too early to be getting so negative.

My money is on survival and a place outside the bottom 4. Yes of course its possible, when we are playing to our strengths we can beat anyone. There are worse teams than us in the division including Yeovil.

COME ON SILKMEN


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pontiuspilate Posted on 14/03/2019 11:50
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Dobby it we lose I will be washing my hands regarding the silkmen and having nothing more to do with them, Jesus itís time we made up 👍
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crazyface Posted on 15/03/2019 08:26
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I cannot believe that some on here actually think Sol will stay with us when we are relegated. If he wanted a non league position he could have got in at any of the teams down in London, but no, Billy Big Boots thought he was better than that, although 91 of the other EFL thought otherwise, luckilly for them, and saw he wasn't as good as he thought. MTFC didn't and brought him in on a cheap deal, giving him his, much sought after, chance to manage a Football League team. Non-League Sol? Not a chance!!!!
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macchiavelli Posted on 15/03/2019 09:29
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cf, you say, 'MTFC didn't and brought him in on a cheap deal'

Surely the decision to do this rests at the door of our 'major shareholder' and his advisors.

MTFC, as an entity, had no say in this.

At the end of the day, whoever signs the cheques bears the ultimate responsibility for appointing a successful management team to further (or is it farther?[:D]) the aims of the organisation.

If it works, like the 'Askey miracle' of last season, then they are fully entitled to share in the plaudits. If it goes pear-shaped, and I think we are well into orchard territory now, then let them be honest and say, 'I got it wrong'.

As it stands, it looks like we have now appointed 2 failures in a row, and I think we all know ultimately where the buck stops.
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pontiuspilate Posted on 15/03/2019 10:28
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TBH I think Sol inherited more of a mess than he thought, the damage was done at the start of the season both on and off the field. JA leaving to further his career meant that whoever took over was going to be in for a hard time. We lost the likes of Pilks who was immense last season and some of the conference winning team have not made the step up, adding to a crippling injury list and then signing unfit players we are bottom of the league, no surprise really. Sol is on a hiding to nothing, he gets blamed for us going bottom when the weather dictates we canít play for Christ sakes, and those on the field get dogs abuse without having a chance to show their true potential (which may not be good enough) but after one or two games surely we need to reserve judgement. If/when we go down, next season we need to start with some stability, I would if he doesnít do a scholes keep Sol in charge, like Askey he needs time and if given that time I believe he will do a decent job.
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leedsblue Posted on 15/03/2019 11:13
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I share that view pp. Sol isn't without criticism for some of his decisions, particularly more recently, but some are being unduly harsh on him given the task he took on.
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bollingtonblue Posted on 15/03/2019 11:43
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If SC fails to keep us up I do not think that automatically makes hims a poor manager. It is his first job and with a club with limited resources at a level of football with which he is not familiar. I hope he is listening to Danny Whitaker's advice. He should stay at the club next season whether it is in League 2 or the National League. Only then with a pre-season and full season can he properly prove himself both to us and to himself.
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Dobby Posted on 15/03/2019 12:36
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Saturday is truly a must win game and perhaps it is advisable to wait until after that before thinking about Sol's situation. I like Sol and hope he stays but if we "crash" out of the league early would he have the stomach for a fight in the National league? and would he be appropriate for that level?
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