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DagenhamFox Posted on 08/04/2020 22:18
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The total number of confirmed cases of Coronavirus in the UK today stands at 60,733. That’s about the capacity of The Emirates Stadium in London.

The total number of deaths recorded as Covid 19 is 7,097 which is about the size of Whaddon Road, Cheltenham Town’s stadium.

And these figures keep rising.
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yorkfox Posted on 08/04/2020 22:24
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But what are the real totals. Are other countries just counting hospitalised fatalities. Surely here there must have been double or triple the number of cases and a minimum 10-20 percent extra on deaths
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DagenhamFox Posted on 08/04/2020 22:35
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That we’ll probably never know York.
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Filbo65 Posted on 08/04/2020 23:22
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It's predictably imprecise. The UK totals do now include care home and community deaths, as well as hospital deaths. But the sample fact is that many of the death certificates from the community show Covid as a 'possible' or 'probable' contributory factor. Who could blame any GP right now for taking the easy route when making that decision?
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DagenhamFox Posted on 09/04/2020 01:43
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Since the weekend I’ve had my sister’s partners Dad die of Alzheimer’s, who was in The Grange nursing home in Saddington.

Also one of my mate’s Dad who also died of Alzheimer’s but at home. Those whew know him it was MG’s dad, he passed away on Monday.

Both were really ill and it was one of those times both of these deaths were as much of a blessing as a sad, sad day.

Neither had Covid 19 but who knows if they will be reported as such?
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Filbo65 Posted on 09/04/2020 01:59
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Ahh, I'm sorry to hear about both.
In my experience, it's incredibly rare for relief not to be the overwhelming emotion when anyone over about 70 dies. [sad]
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Surffers Posted on 09/04/2020 02:38
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Deaths on average to infections is about 4% world wide the UK is about 11% so that's not acceptable at all.

But on the other side of the coin the UK population has increased by more than 3 Wembley's every year and this virus will not dent that.
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LeicesterRino Posted on 09/04/2020 06:25
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If we don’t know how many cases there are in th the UK how do we know what percentage of those getting the virus die from it.

Also we’re never told how many extra people are passing away compared to a normal day
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yorkfox Posted on 09/04/2020 06:39
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Here's a copy and paste about the Italian town that beat Covid 19:

There is a place in Italy where the coronavirus has already been defeated. Its name is Vo', a small settlement of 3,000 inhabitants in the countryside of the Veneto region, about 70km from Venice.

It suddenly became famous around the world on 21 February, after the news of Italy's first virus-related fatality: one of its residents, pensioner Adriano Trevisan.

After the ministry of health defined it as "a cluster of infection", Vo' was placed under quarantine on February 23.

The day after, one of the most iron-clad sanitary cordons in Italy's history was built around it: no one could enter or leave the town, and goods (only medicines and food) could only reach Vo' if authorised by the Prefetto (central government representative in Padua).

Alessio Turetta, 30, owner of a brewery in Vo' and town councillor said to EUobserver: "The pillars of our strategy to manage the health emergency were quarantine and testing".

The town implemented a similar model as South Korea, though with a less hi-tech approach, and on February 29, 97 percent of its population had been tested (Vo' residents living elsewhere were of course excluded).

Nothing like this has been done elsewhere in Italy: in Vo', they arrived to take 800 swabs in only one day.

At the end of the first mass screening on 29 February, three percent of the population resulted positive, and put under mandatory confinement at home.

"Those who tested positive were contacted directly by the health district: carriers with no symptoms or those with mild symptoms were quarantined at home, while those showing more serious symptoms (e.g. high fever) were immediately hospitalised" says Turetta.

"The carriers who remained at home were called several times a day to make sure they were abiding the quarantine, and check their conditions, such as their body temperature".

Regardless of the test results, all residents were invited to stay at home and limit their movements as much as they could, just to the supermarket or the pharmacy.

The strategy worked.

When the testing was repeated between 6 and 8 March, only one percent of the population was found positive.

As of Monday (23 March), the spread of the illness has stopped, and there are no new infections. Some media reported that a new infection was found in Vo' last Thursday night [19 March] but Turetta confirms EUobserver that it was actually referred to one of the few carriers left found on 8 March.

Not everyone in Vo' was happy with the strategy that was implemented.

A resident who prefered not to make his identity known, says: "When they tested the whole town, they crowded lots of people, no safety distance was respected. And I still don't understand how the virus reached a town as remote as ours".

But on the whole, it is undeniable that the Vo' model has been a success.

Of course, at first people were upset and worried, but based on the interviews made by EUobserver, it seems that everyone tried to do their part.

Carla Santolin, owner of a pharmacy in Vo', and the mayor's wife, told EUobserver: "My son and I live in Vicenza, a nearby city. On 24 February morning, the day that the authorities officially closed Vo', we let Vicenza at 7:30 and came to do the quarantine here, because we were needed too.

"The hospital in Schiavonia [that usually assists Vo' residents] was closed; its doctors were in quarantine. For days, more than drugs people came here to understand what was going on, ask for news, be listened to. So it was absolutely necessary to stay open and in contact with people, and help."

According to Mrs Santolin, "the Vo' model worked great. The results have been outstanding."

Sandro Lovison, owner of an agritourism in Vo', thinks so too. "In my opinion, the situation was handled very well" he says to EUobserver, "and I think it was also a winning strategy. We, the 3,300 inhabitants, after 14 days [protected from] the outside world, found ourselves with zero infections. Zero".

Case study?
Indeed, Vo' case is now being studied by Italian virologists, including those from the University of Padua (which actively participated in the testings).

Again, the town has attracted the attention of the international media.

According to Italian virologists, the 'Vo' model' shows that combining a strict quarantine with swabs, so as to identify healthy carriers, is the winning way to stop the spread of the virus - at least in smaller urban centres.

Turetta is proud of his fellow citizens: "There was a lot of awareness. Everyone understood the situation and acted accordingly"
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buz_not_buzz Posted on 09/04/2020 07:16
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Which is one of the things I presume they will look at when it's declared over & they come to do the final estimate of death toll linked to this particular pandemic. Essential for those who want to source Wiki during the early stages of the next one to illustrate how its nothing compared to COVID-19.
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LeicesterRino Posted on 09/04/2020 07:38
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I’m not sure 3000 is a very representative sample
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Surffers Posted on 09/04/2020 07:53
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I agree with Rino on a comparison of deaths on a normal flu season daily to this year .

People have been given little real information on these numbers but this a government breakdown of registered deaths.

A total of 150,047 deaths were registered in England and Wales between 28 December 2019 and 27 March 2020 (year to date), and of these, 647 involved the coronavirus (COVID-19) (0.4%); including deaths that occurred up to 27 March but were registered up to 1 April, the number involving COVID-19 was 1,639.

For deaths that occurred up to 27 March, there were 1,568 deaths in England registered by 1 April involving COVID-19 compared with 1,649 deaths reported by NHS England for the same period in a newly published dataset.

Of the deaths registered in Week 13, 539 mentioned "novel coronavirus (COVID-19)", which is 4.8% of all deaths; this compared with 103 (1.0% of all deaths) in Week 12.

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LeicesterRino Posted on 09/04/2020 08:41
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Will we ever get to know how many die of the virus and how many are with the virus?
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buz_not_buzz Posted on 09/04/2020 09:13
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No.
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sixthswan Posted on 09/04/2020 09:24
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Conversely, we will never know the number of lives saved by lockdown measures. Which will forever be a gift, to the conspiracy theorists and deniers. But at least those lives were saved [^]
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Filbo65 Posted on 09/04/2020 09:36
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Agreed 6th.
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buz_not_buzz Posted on 09/04/2020 09:44
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Indeed.
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 10:08
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True but it should not have come to this. PHE and Government were caught out. We're supposed to be a developed country so why did those responsible for planning and preparedness not do what they should have done, like Taiwan and Singapore, for example ? Probably because they were complacent and thought something this serious could not happen to us. And the notion that this is unprecedented and nobody could have foreseen it is wrong. People in power either knew or should have known.
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dirtybollard Posted on 09/04/2020 10:18
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Why worry and fret over something you have no control over? it is what it is and will be what it will be. It's like the cast of loose women on here pointless gossip achieving nothing.[:(][:(][:(]
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sixthswan Posted on 09/04/2020 10:19
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PHE and the government were caught out.

It is speculative, but the reason might be that the present government has been too enamoured with blue sky thinking.

Herd immunity was a complete mistake. It should never have been considered, without a vaccine.

Our leaders knew about the possibility of this crisis back in December. So thay had plenty of time to plan for it.

They could have prepared a testing strategy, coupled with targeted isolation so that most of could carry on as usual.

The PPE is the biggest of the scandals. The visors that largey protect those who work in close proxity to others, are not difficult to make. People are making them at home. Nurses have had to make their own out of soft drink bottles.

The government could have accessed the raw materials and the firms that can manufacture them months ago.
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sixthswan Posted on 09/04/2020 10:24
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Actually. No DB is right. I don't care about why we are where we are, or where we are going.

Time to sit back and relax. Numb the brain.

Might have a look in a bit at the stuff about Planet X, 5g and The Protocol of the Elders of Zion.

Must remember to remind my daughter, not to worry about her nursing shift tonight. What will be, will be. Stop moaning.
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 10:33
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Quite right. I remember that story about Emmeline Pankhurst telling her husband what she planned to do. Quite rightly he told her to accept how things were and fold the clothes nicely.
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 10:36
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Also, my requests to appear on Loose Women have always been declined so this forum will have to do, I'm afraid.
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sixthswan Posted on 09/04/2020 10:44
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Can't believe they have refused you. Did they give a valid reason?

I wanted to go on there to discuss my theories on the John F Kennedy assassination (I think I've cracked the case by the way); but I was replaced at the last minute by Peter Andre pretending to be pregnant.

That was fair enough though.
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ClaphamFox Posted on 09/04/2020 11:03
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When I submitted my 'suicide theory' about the JFK to The One Show I didn't even get a response. And some folk still think the media isn't controlled by government [rle]
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yorkfox Posted on 09/04/2020 11:05
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Thats the BBC for you, they even got the wrong Alex Jones
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 11:13
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Well, the official reason was that "they had good reason to believe" I wore the wrong colour nail polish. And I thought Denise Welch was a good friend. Can't trust any of them.
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sixthswan Posted on 09/04/2020 11:19
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You're right, none of them can be trusted.

Basically conducting witchcraft, under the guise of a daytime gossip show.
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 11:27
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Yes, so remember, if you ever get an unexpected invitation from the show's producers to attend a special filming session on a remote Scottish island, think very carefully before accepting.
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Filbo65 Posted on 09/04/2020 11:43
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Now you warn me! I did think there were some funny goings on when I got there
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 12:02
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I, er, heard that they used to make people wear a sheep costume and spend the night in a field on their hands and knees as a special gift for the "Gods". I wondered if they still did that. If so, any idea when the next event might happen? Asking for a friend who just happens, you know, to be curious.
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Fugazi Posted on 09/04/2020 12:30
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All this earnestness, brow furrowing, intense cogitation, pontification and banging my fist constantly on the desk to show how exercised I am by all this has taken its toll. I'm off to watch old episodes of Button Moon and relaaax man.
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Filbo65 Posted on 09/04/2020 13:16
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I drew the line at the sheep costume, in case there were any funny folk from north-west of the county hanging around [^]
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dirtybollard Posted on 09/04/2020 15:58
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I just thank god it worked. Thought I was flogging a dead horse there.[;)][;)][:D][:D][:D]
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sixthswan Posted on 09/04/2020 16:03
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Have you been on Loose Women DB?
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Bradnor Posted on 09/04/2020 16:29
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Ahem

Returning to the original topic of this thread, the Kings College research app, that has over 2 million Britons self reporting daily whether or not they have Co-vid 19 symptoms, estimated a couple of days ago that 1.4m Brits have symptomatic COVID, down from 1.9m on 1/4/20. That's quite a rapid drop in week 2 of Lockdown

If you want more info, or to join in as a self reporter, the link is below

Link: C-19 research website
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Adumass Posted on 09/04/2020 17:06
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its tricky comparing countries rates, especially when they are based thousands of miles apart. also comparing confirmed cases is problematic as some countries test (much) more than others. [rle]

but if we just look at our closest neighbours. us, france and italy all have broadly similar populations and broadly similar death rates.
but standing out like a very sore thumb is germany, whose population is roughly +25% to the other three countries, yet their death rate is a fraction of ours...
hopefully we are learning from them.

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dirtybollard Posted on 09/04/2020 18:02
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Swanny I have not. But if I had have been I'm sure we would have met. You're that type of material.
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DagenhamFox Posted on 09/04/2020 18:45
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I can tell you Germany is no more locked down than we are, they’re allowed out for walks but need to keep their distance from people from other households. This is the same in Bavaria as the North West area.
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borebage53 Posted on 09/04/2020 19:19
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Have they annexed the Sudetanland again yet!
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