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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 15:08
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Great to see Dave pick up awards last night alongside a landmark performance calling out those who need calling out. All power to the kids who are out there making art and kicking up a stink against the powers that be, just like the 60s/70s/80s flower power/Rock Against Racism/Acid House movements that have come before.

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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 19/02/2020 15:15
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Definitely a ton in this one

He studied at DMU for a bit before becoming a full-time musician. Psychodrama is a really good album
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sixthswan Posted on 19/02/2020 15:23
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The song Question Time is a good start. It will either make you rage because you agree with the sentiment of the lyrics; or angry for other reasons. It might even leave you cold and uncaring. Happy listening.
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 15:35
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up the RA
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 19/02/2020 15:37
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Lesley off of the latest album is a special track aswell.
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lee3lions Posted on 19/02/2020 16:20
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Ēreparations for the time our people spent on plantations.Ē
Do you think we could get a few bob out of the Italians for when the Romans invaded?
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Drew-Peacock Posted on 19/02/2020 16:40
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Darn wiv da kids innit bro
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astleyfox Posted on 19/02/2020 17:19
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Each to their own, but I think its utter cr@p.
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Filbo65 Posted on 19/02/2020 18:21
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Another contributory factor to my feeling rather old these days...
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 19:14
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Lets ignore that he bigged up his brother eh.

Stephen Lawrance murder was white on black, you've all spent 20 years shouting about it.This one doesn't matter because hes called someone you hate a racist, so that makes him right on.
Not a mention of the poor family of the dead boy, just his murderous brother.

Its so sad that the left have heroes like him and Phil the cheat.

None of you really care about anything, you just live fake lifes. Pretend everyone bar you are scum, you care nothing for nobody just what your fake personas shows the world.

By the way Dave is an out and out racist. lets pretend hes not, lets make him a fukcing star, hes only made them remarks to get rich and famous. Free Nelson Mandela,! frauds the lot of ya.

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hackneyfox Posted on 19/02/2020 19:17
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Blimey [:O][:O][:O]

Lesley is a very moving track.
Saw him last year with my lad, probably the best of all the ones heís taken me to.

Was it a gang killing?
Does that make his brother racist let alone Dave?

Donít agree with mentioning his brother as inspiration or using his voice on the album.
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sydrock Posted on 19/02/2020 19:46
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Wow!!
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astleyfox Posted on 19/02/2020 20:05
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Men who live in glass houses, and all that.
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scoops Posted on 19/02/2020 20:16
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Thought it was utter Shiite

Can you imagine if a white fella had a track called white and sang about how everything is loaded against everyone white .

The guys an absolute caant

And Stormzy with his massive posse on the stage. Not a white face in sight or was that purely coincidental?

Not anti white - pro black !!

Faaack off you pair of racist caants
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Mistryman Posted on 19/02/2020 20:22
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I suppose this fits the definition of racism of a couple of posters on here...
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 20:26
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XXXXXX me it's a Gammon Meltdown!!!

Why do you all get so fkin freaked and outraged by someone who's talking about what it's like to be a young black man in 2020 UK?? The point I was making (which has been totally ignored) is that its refreshing to see this generation call out the fkers in the establishment just like Strummer/Weller/X Moore did for my generation.

The fact that the colour of his skin has been mentioned by people on this thread speaks volumes.
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billsballbag Posted on 19/02/2020 20:28
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I thought bnet was quoting some lyrics to begin with
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Surffers Posted on 19/02/2020 20:29
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Rap means crap all part of the black gangster culture destroying the US and UK.

Can't sing no problem become a rap artist just compose some shiite involving violence and job done.

No wonder London is a cesspit.
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 20:47
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it suits your politics thats why you like it.
Racism is not white against black, we're all equal, people who divide are the wrong'ns.

So i'm a fat red faced p i s s e d up pig of a person am l ?

thats a gammon isn't it ?

i'm actually mixed race,

i'm Swedish, Welsh and Irish oops thats not mixed race in your categorisations is it ?
what about the Jewish greatgrandparents l have ? no, still no good eh.

I'm white privileged,
no,
l was brought up by my mother on benefits, clothed by the council, free school meals and no electric half the time. Never moaned about any of it, losers do that. I treat everyone well, l share everything. Guess why l pull up spoilt useless middleclass know it socialists who have no real social concience at all, just a load of fakers.

You really don't think Daves a rebel do you ? get the coffee on and have a big sniff.


Anyway l can put my rod away now, suckeeerrrrrs.
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 20:49
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Hes a musician Hackney, nothing else hes playing the publicity game like they all do, it sells records and makes money. Nothing more, nothing less.
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 20:52
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Real cool story bro.

I'm Ukrainian/German born in Leicester and lived in Highfields and Uppingham Road. What are we doing... Having a working class competition?

Mate, all your post is just a fkin ramble. Can't see why you seem to have a problem with a working class black kid doing what Strummer did over 40 years ago.

That's the main point of my post. But.. As always on here, it goes off on some acid tangent. Shame really.

Keep on funkin!
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 19/02/2020 21:01
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It's funny how people see things differently isn't it.

I see a fine story telling rapper and piano player who eloquently describes his experience of his life in Britain.

Others see a dangerous racist. Yet I don't actually recall him saying anything at all derogatory about any other race on his tracks. He talks about some uncomfortable stuff without a doubt. Stuff that he sees as unfair. And yes he is an entertainer. But he is clearly passionate and articulate during his more thoughtful tracks.

I like him and his music and remember the excitement I felt when I heard him for the first time back in 2015. He will be around for a while as he is very talented
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dirtybollard Posted on 19/02/2020 21:02
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Thankfully no one but a minority of XXXXXXwits gives a sh*t what this two-bit rap tw*t thinks.[rle]
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:04
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Agreed Arlesey, a massive talent who's gonna be around for a long time.

I get that his target demographic isn't gonna be white working class Boomers and it ain't gonna register with them as a whole, but fk me, some of the stuff on here is laughable
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:06
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Brill, my Bentleys bingo card is almost full now DB has rocked up with some incoherent nonsense.

Just need you to tell me that I have no voice and no choice a la some Stasi state, and I can call HOUSE!

Be a love eh and do the needful?
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 21:06
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l don't care what they sing or write about. James Brown was annoyed by the Average White Band playing blackmans music, he was a racist.

l didn't care. Its the politics that people use it for, racists don't bother me, they dig there own graves, the goodness of normal people see to that.

I also hate the establishment, so calling Johnson a racist is not a biggy for me except people like Dave caurse racial divides by spouting s h i t and deliberately stirring up trouble by lying and as i've said hes not a prophet hes after money and fame and hes doing what you have to do to get it.

and i've been avoiding my paperwork all day, so l thought i'd stir the pot and get you a fifty instead.

edited to mention that and l guess you know, recorded some stuff under the name Above Average Black Band !
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:07
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And God bless you my sweet misunderstood child!
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 21:10
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thank you father
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 19/02/2020 21:10
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Wait till they hear about J Hus Jabba
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scoops Posted on 19/02/2020 21:11
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Different views on Talent thatís for sure

How can new generations move on when people like Dave wonít let it happen.

Big up any one in prison as well . Brilliant , letís celebrate murderers and rapists.

Weller was angry back in the day and Iím his biggest fan but donít remember the track about white people and 500 years of injustice to white people.

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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:12
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[:D][:D][:D]

Best not go there eh??
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 21:13
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you called it on the second post Arlesey, but nothing was moving so Mac transfered £10 into my account and off we jolly well went[smi]
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 19/02/2020 21:15
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I know I'm just helping it along Bnet [:D]
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:15
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Scoops, Weller was a white working class kid who would never have been subject to racism, so he didn't talk about it.

He flagged up kidney machines replaced by rockets and guns and people shoved away in tower blocks and forgotten. And god bless him for that.
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:17
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I'm not resting till I've got Unicum on here rocking his Patronising For Experts shtick
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bnet Posted on 19/02/2020 21:24
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try a bit harder then, its easy, watch and learn.
l took notes from the master - Soho, who else, hes still the best, he can pull a ton anytime he wants.
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 21:33
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Maybe I can get him on here to tell us how he sat next to Rod Hull and Emu in Joe Rigatonis circa 1986 and that Emu was a caaant.
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borebage53 Posted on 19/02/2020 21:43
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Saw the Average White Band at the Roundhouse in Dagenham in 1973. Good night that was!
And again at The Odeon in Birmingham. Price was up by then!
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dirtybollard Posted on 19/02/2020 21:47
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The biggest joke has to be anyone linking rap with talent. Christ, it's so old hat. Any XXXXXX can do it hence this talentless tw*t called Dave.

Instantly forgotten p*ss poor rhyme for children and the tone-deaf. Not my culture not my idea of music. For the life of me I can't understand why they are still churning out this eighties gangster XXXXXX*.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 19/02/2020 21:49
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Anyone can churn it out but not everybody can do it well
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borebage53 Posted on 19/02/2020 21:56
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They were never really the same after Hamish Stuart left,IMO.
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 19/02/2020 22:51
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Jabba.....X Moore , there's a name from the past.

Keep on keeping on!!!!
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hackneyfox Posted on 19/02/2020 22:58
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bnet
I never made any claims that he was anything, just mentioned that it was the best of a bunch of gigs I've been to with my lad.

Having said that I do agree with jabba that it's good to see someone calling out the establishment as many punk bands did when I was a kid. Makes no odds what your colour or ethnic make up is, they're just singing about how their life is/was.
I also said that I thought it was wrong to name check his brother.

Not sure what you read?
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jabbaranks Posted on 19/02/2020 22:58
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Kick Over The Statues!

A great writer as well. Just disappeared into the ether. Hope he's happy.
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hackneyfox Posted on 19/02/2020 23:02
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Redskins did a great cover of that.
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Surffers Posted on 19/02/2020 23:18
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In the 1960's we had peace and love music now its about murderers and violence for wannabe black gangsters, how lovely.
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finedonfox Posted on 19/02/2020 23:51
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you forgot to mention vile 5h1t5 like you
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 20/02/2020 00:01
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Hey Surffers, Dirty B.

If you don't like Dave maybe you'll like Pete & Bas.

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Walthamstowblue Posted on 20/02/2020 00:45
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I bumped into Chris Dean( X Moore) at a Joyce Sims gig in Hammersmith of all places, sometime in 1988.
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 01:32
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You could dance to Mowton so what do you to Rapping is it stab or shoot some bleeder.
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 20/02/2020 03:16
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Are you on drugs?
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 05:05
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Why you got some from a local gang.
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collibosher70 Posted on 20/02/2020 05:46
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Kin hell...hark at you lot...he's no Elton John though is he
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sabredunce Posted on 20/02/2020 06:03
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'I'm not resting till I've got Unicum on here rocking his Patronising For Experts shtick'


kinda like calling everyone 'child' or 'son' when you get flustered, huh?
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 06:49
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That there rapping should be put on the weapons of mass destruction list, it fries brain cells.

I'll stick to soul music and Max Bygraves it's far safer and you can sing along no knifes required .



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jabbaranks Posted on 20/02/2020 07:22
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Sabre mi duck!! Long time no speak.

Good point, excellently made.
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dirtybollard Posted on 20/02/2020 07:44
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Come on be honest its sh*t so-called music. Crude basic tuneless crap for the low lives who have no life.

Lyrics for leaning difficulties sung by people with learning difficulties.

Culturally about two thousand years behind real music.[rle][rle][rle]
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bnet Posted on 20/02/2020 07:57
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look what you can do when you add a bit of proper music from the likes of Donald Byrd.

Then again DB can't do no wrong.

Link: 2pac vs Donald Byrd
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jabbaranks Posted on 20/02/2020 08:43
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Come on DB, get on this, classic slab of old skool hip hop. Resistance is futile!

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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 09:22
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An interesting take from Mosquito Katie.

1960s music was all about peace and love. Modern music is about murders and violence by black gangsters.

Forgetting completely about how Charles Manson misappropriated the White Album by the Beatles and interpreted Helter Skelter as a call to arms for a race-war.

The 1968 murders were an attempt to make the crimes look like they were committed by black people, in order to spark racial tensions.

Though Lie: The Love and Terror Cult isn't really a classic.

The Good Ole Days...
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 20/02/2020 09:34
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I was just thinking that Dirty B is an excellent rap name
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 09:45
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Rent boy sixth prat play the Woodstock album and tell me that was about gangs and drug dealing it was love, peace and anti War.

Every day brings another gang killing in the UK and just who are in these gangs the followers of rap .

Violence is becoming a way life in the UK mainly by drug gangs who have chosen this way of life that is pushed in rap crap.

From 1976 to 2005, 94 percent of the killers of black murder victims were other African Americans. In short, this is about exceptionally high as well as overwhelmingly intraracial black violent crime.

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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 09:53
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What about Altamont Mozzie Katie?
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 09:59
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Good to see you have an inquisitive mind sixth prat ,mind them floods second thoughts take a drive up Slash Lane Sileby you probably need a wash,
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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 10:05
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What there a black civil rights movement in the 1960s, or was it all about peace and love man?
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 10:07
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Did the civil rights movement indulge in stabbing each other ?
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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 10:15
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The Mods and Rockers used to stab each other.
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 10:20
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You obviously never saw the the bank holiday entertainment between the mods and rockers , lots of wind and pizz like you.
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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 10:24
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Thankfully, I'm not old enough to have [:D]
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jabbaranks Posted on 20/02/2020 10:30
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The Rolling Stones at Altamont was a lovely family day out
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 10:35
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Them Hells Angels are nice to their mothers so Mick told me .

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jabbaranks Posted on 20/02/2020 10:59
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Ahh those lovely misunderstood Caucasian lads
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Surffers Posted on 20/02/2020 11:07
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They work cheap and not all Hells Angels are Caucasian you racist.

The USA chapters have native Americans and Latin American members.
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hackneyfox Posted on 20/02/2020 13:56
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XXXXXX poor rhymes?
For the tone deaf?

"Black"

Look
Black is beautiful, black is excellent
Black is pain, black is joy, black is evident
It's workin' twice as hard as the people you know you're better than
'Cause you need to do double what they do so you can level them
Black is so much deeper than just African-American
Our heritage been severed, you never got to experiment
With family trees 'cause they teach you about famine and greed
And show you pictures of our fam on their knees
Tell us we used to be barbaric, we had actual queens
Black is watching child soldiers gettin' killed by other children
Feelin' sick like "Oh XXXXXX, this coulda happened to me"
Your mummy watchin', tellin' stories 'bout your dad and your niece
The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice
The kid dies, the blacker the killer, the sweeter the news
And if he's white, you'll give him a chance, he's ill and confused
If he's black he's probably armed, you see and you shoot

Look
Black is growin' up around the barbershop
Mummy sayin' stay away from trouble, you're in yard a lot
Studyin' for ages, appreciating the chance you got
'Cause black is in your blood and you ain't even got the heart to stop
Black is steppin' in for your mother because your father's gone
And standin' by your children when you haven't proving karma wrong
Black is doing all of the above and going corner shopping
Tryna help a lady cross the street to have her walking off
Black is growing up around your family and making it
Then being forced to leave the place you live because there's hate in it
People say you fake this XXXXXX, never stayed to change this XXXXXX
But black is being jealous, you'd be dead if you had stayed in it
Black is struggling to find your history or change this XXXXXX
You don't know the truth about your race 'cause they're erasing it
Black has got a sour XXXXXX flavor, here's a taste of it
But black is all I know, there ain't a thing that I would change in it

Look
Black ain't just a single XXXXXX color man, there's shades to it
Her hair straight and thick but mine's got waves in it
Black is not divisive, they've been lying and I hate this XXXXXX
Black has never been a competition, we all make this XXXXXX
Black is deadly, black is when you're freezing in your home
And you can't get sleep, but never feeling empty 'cause
You got 20 cousins in your country living stress-free
Walking for their water, daughter wrapped inside a bed sheet
Black is distant
It's representing countries that never even existed
While your grandmother was living
Black is my Ghanaian brother reading into scriptures
Doin' research in his lineage, finding out that he's Egyptian
Black is people naming your counties on what they trade most
Coast of Ivory, Gold Coast, and the Grain Coast
But most importantly, to show how deep all of this pain goes
West Africa, Benin, they called it slave coast
Black is so confusing 'cause the culture, they're in love with it
They take our features when they want and have their fun with it
Never seem to help with all the things we know will come with it
Loud in our laughter, silent in our suffering
Black is being strong inside and facing defeat
Poverty made me a beast, I battled the law in the streets
We all struggle, but your struggle ain't a struggle like me
Or how could it be when your people gave us the odds that we beat
I mean XXXXXX hell, what about our brothers that are stuck in jail
That could have bust the bail, they held a bird and gotta live with it
Black is being guilty until proven that you're innocent
Black is sayin' "Free my XXXXXXin' niggas stuck inside in prisons cells"
They think it's funny, we ain't got nothing to say to them
Unconditional love is strange to them, it's amazing them
Black is like the sweetest XXXXXX flavor, here's a taste of it
But black is all I know, there ain't a thing that I would change in it

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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 20/02/2020 14:20
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That should help bring the ton up, Hackers.

What if somebody did a song about white people etc. etc.
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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 14:22
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The song is about white people. Try to understand it...
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jabbaranks Posted on 20/02/2020 14:29
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Hackers administers CPR!!!

As an aside to the point that Surffers was making about violence being monopolised by black culture, I played in a Ska/Mod covers band for well over a decade and we'd frequently get blokes rocking up to gigs in the uniform, shaved head, pot belly, tats and Fred P's, doing full on Nazi salutes while we played.

Put me off my paradiddles.
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hackneyfox Posted on 20/02/2020 14:39
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Listening to Lesley right now, unfortunately the two trolls won't have the attention span to manage 11 minutes.

Perhaps that should read 'fortunately'.
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sixthswan Posted on 20/02/2020 15:10
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That Lesley is a very good song. An emotional rollercoaster.

I still remember the shock, when it was revealed that Sally Cinammon on the train was into girls and not boys.

This is a far worse train journey though.
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bnet Posted on 20/02/2020 18:00
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Hackney, you do know l posted the lyrics on another thread with "white" substituted for black don't you ?

-Training Ground thread actually
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 08:57
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Ironic that the world's most famous rap artist is white.[;)]
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jabbaranks Posted on 21/02/2020 09:00
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In what way exactly is it 'ironic'? It's an artform - free to everyone.

Was it ironic that Jimi Hendrix and Prince were 2 of the greatest rock and roll guitarists ever?

I'll give you a clue - the answer is no.
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hackneyfox Posted on 21/02/2020 09:13
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Why would you do that bnet?
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bnet Posted on 21/02/2020 09:39
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To see if it looked racist, what do you think -
yah or nay ?
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 10:00
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I'll give YOU a clue Jabba Rock and roll is Black music. As is Rap crap.
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 10:00
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I'll give YOU a clue Jabba Rock and roll is Black music. As is Rap crap.
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jabbaranks Posted on 21/02/2020 10:03
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Still not sure how it's ironic. You seem to be having fun though, so thanks mate.
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bnet Posted on 21/02/2020 10:11
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Just read a headline in a paper.

"why don't these posturing pop stars ever protest about grooming gangs"

Good question eh ?
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hackneyfox Posted on 21/02/2020 10:16
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Why should they?
Dave et al are rapping about their life as young black men in Britain.

What has grooming to do with them?
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jabbaranks Posted on 21/02/2020 10:17
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That's a terrible question. The subject of child abuse has been covered quite comprehensively over the years (see link).

Plus, it's not the best subject if you want to be Tony Blackburn's Record Of The Week.



Link: Comprehensive
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 10:35
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Or could it be they are just sh*t scared of being murdered by Islamic nutters?

I know which one I'm going for.[;)]
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 21/02/2020 10:38
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With respect I think you're missing the point of the song personally Bnet.

Why would a white person write that song? It makes no sense and wouldn't be relevant in the same way as it is for a black artist.

You might write about your struggles being a white artist in a generally black dominated marketplace like Eminem has. Or you might find another angle like Devlin or The Streets maybe
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bnet Posted on 21/02/2020 11:24
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no, Arlesey, l do see the point and l really don't care if he writes and sings about being black, lots of my favoure singers have. I just tried it out and ask if anyone thought it racists.

I do think its all about self promoting, and l see nothing wrong with that. I just don't like people using things like this hypocritically. Then people using it politically.

l think hes c r a p by the way but each to his own.

nearlly there Jabba !!!
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 21/02/2020 11:34
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So you think he doesn't give a to$$ about the art he puts out there as long as it makes money.

Sure the $ is important but you have to applaud somebody who is prepared to use music to make something that is a bit different from the norm don't you?

And why shouldn't he use his platform to make political points. We all do it. It's just that his platform is bigger than ours.

We are all hypocritical as well to at least some degree. It's part of being human
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jabbaranks Posted on 21/02/2020 11:40
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Looks like there's a gap in the market for a crew to spit some bars about Grooming Gangs.

Maybe hook up with DB and Cold Toast, call yourself HWA. Debut album 'Malik At The School Gates'.

I can put on a showcase event for ya, get you signed up.
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 13:35
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It wouldn't be hard to do. Subject matter notwithstanding, any song about pimping busting a cap in ya ass and being dissed. so long as you make it rhyme it's a winner![:D]
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Interesting you view writing lyrics as something that's easy. I'm sure Dylan, Cole Porter, Jimmy Webb, Hal David, Bernie Taupin and Ice Cube may beg to differ.
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 13:54
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It is easy I've just done it on another post. And the subject matter is adolescent in rap crap.No comparison to the great lyrists of our time.[rle]
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I'm assuming you haven't bothered to read the lyrics to 'Lesley' by Dave, as flagged up by a few on here. Maybe do that and re-evaluate?
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 14:16
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Fair enough I'll have a look.[^]
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 14:21
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Just read it. Her man got her in the yard? Cole Porter, it ain't.[rle]
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bnet Posted on 21/02/2020 16:49
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imagine someone writing a song thats on a number one album around the world about a psycho, and that psycho is your nephew[smi] true story blud.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 21/02/2020 16:55
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I think the song is about how he idolised his brother growing up and how he feels his brother let him down rather than him glorifying what his brother did.

The Psychodrama element of it is him discussing things with his psychotherapist I believe. There are skits throughout the album

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bnet Posted on 21/02/2020 17:13
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People only listen to the lyrics if theyre depressed, thats why all them songs that sound like moaning do well, Adelle etc


When I was seventeen, I ran away from home
And from everything, I had ever known
I was sick and tired living in a town
Filled with narrow minds and hate
They used to laugh at me and children called me names
I would run and hide feeling so ashamed
Just for being born, I was just a boy
Punished for a crime that was not mine
Life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child
Oh babe, life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child
No one tried to understand
Papa did the best a man could do
A child's reality is paid for by his folks
Fancy fairy tales are bought and sold by those
Who can well afford time to make believe
Childhood dreams, can still come true
So I've been wondering, traveling all around
Guess it ain't my style to live in just one town
Still I'll never know why a child is blamed
Ridiculed and shamed, we're all the same
Life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child
I'm witness that life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child, yeah
Life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child
Oh baby, life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child
Life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child
(Life can be rough) life ain't so easy
(With going gets tough) when you're a ghetto child
life ain't so easy
When you're a (this gotta change) ghetto child (they gotta change gotta change, yeah, yeah!)
Life ain't so easy
When you're a ghetto child (I'm a ghetto oh)
Life ain't so easy

just the same as Dave but with talent, doesn't mention black though.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 21/02/2020 17:29
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Yeah that song is class Bnet I have to agree with you.

Been listening to rap/hip hop for over 35 years now though and still love it.

Trust me Dave is a cut above the average churn that gets released. It's OK for him to talk about being black in my eyes aswell. Doesn't offend me or bother me at all. I still don't know why it should
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bnet Posted on 21/02/2020 17:31
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like l said, l don't care either. What was the Blues about, if not the same !
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Higher_Power_Fox Posted on 21/02/2020 18:41
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A real classic.


Link: THE DAY TODAY
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wearthefoxhat Posted on 21/02/2020 21:06
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Will the real slim shadey please shut up.
Jabbas on a fishing trip & caught the usual suspects.
Interpretation of art is a personal thing & just because you don't see what the next man does is not an excuse for slagging it off.
Great shout on the Redskins, I think it was....

Link: Hackers
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hackneyfox Posted on 21/02/2020 22:22
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Thanks so much for that wtfh
Brilliant link, not see that before.
Had a live tape which was really powerful but sadly lost now.
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dirtybollard Posted on 21/02/2020 23:49
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Ah, but who's netting who?[;)]
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 22/02/2020 05:32
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I always loved this Redskins tune...a tremendous rhythm, & brass section

Link: The power is yours
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bnet Posted on 25/02/2020 20:10
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Stormzy telling kids about being a good Skengman. (a knife man)

Link: what a hero
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hackneyfox Posted on 25/02/2020 21:36
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Skengman is apparently a bad man.
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a Skeng is a knife or blade.
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