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hackneyfox Posted on 18/10/2019 15:15
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Amy Lame, Pennie Smith, Don Letts and Johnny Green discuss and play the album.

A Riot Of Our Own by Johnny Green is a good read.

Link: link
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sgt_wilko Posted on 18/10/2019 15:35
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I listened to this last Sunday. A most enjoyable couple of hours.
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mickyhoss Posted on 18/10/2019 15:41
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hackneyfox Posted on 18/10/2019 15:52
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Brilliant, may have to get one.
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mickyhoss Posted on 18/10/2019 16:00
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www.punk-grandad
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 18/10/2019 16:03
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At the risk of being contrary, even as a young teen I disliked The Clash.

Media fashionistas, art school boys & son of a diplomat playing at "Keeping it real"

They wouldn't play TOTP but fcucked off to America to play Shea stadium.

In my humble opinion, the seemingly forgotten " The Jam" were the people's band.
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mickyhoss Posted on 18/10/2019 16:11
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I saw them 3 times in 1978, at Tiffany's in Cov they were incredible
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sixthswan Posted on 18/10/2019 16:26
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It is best to think of music as entertainment and band members as actors.

You can't expect a rock band to emulate real life and some of the best songs ever written, came out of English Art Schools.
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hackneyfox Posted on 18/10/2019 16:29
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Wasn't overly impressed with them the first time I saw them live at Tiffany's in co*.

Mentioned it before, went to see Siouxsie and the dj played the entire 1st side of Give Em Enough Rope whilst we were waiting for the band to come on. It went all quiet, the tension in the crowd rose and .... the dj flipped the album over and played the entire second side.
Went home and sold the album, didn't listen to it again until a few years back.
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EMExile Posted on 18/10/2019 16:30
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Walthamstowblue?

Does going to art school or being the "son of a diplomat" mean you can't be anti-establishment?

They wouldn't play TOTP because they weren't allowed to play live and would have to lip-sync so they refused.
They supported The Who at Shea, are THe Who sell outs?

Yes, The Jam were good but they weren't in the same league as The Clash when it came to innovation. You don't produce music like that if you're "playing" at it.

Just my humble opinion.
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hackneyfox Posted on 18/10/2019 16:31
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Where else did you see them Micky?

Think I went along with expectations set way too high.
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EMExile Posted on 18/10/2019 16:36
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I wonder what Strummer would have made of Brexit Sixey? [:D][:D]
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 18/10/2019 16:39
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So anti establishment that they signed to CBS for bucketloads.......& they ruined Police & Thieves
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EMExile Posted on 18/10/2019 16:43
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Complete Control.
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tudor_fox Posted on 18/10/2019 16:53
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Janie Jones is the best opening track on any album ever.
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hackneyfox Posted on 18/10/2019 17:01
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One of the best ever quotes about a band (not that I agree), Charles Shaar Murray "The Clash are the kind of garage band who should be returned to the garage immediately, preferably with the engine running"
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billsballbag Posted on 18/10/2019 17:59
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Good tunes

But maybe Anti Establishment when it suited them if you listen to some stories from John Lydon about his trip to Jamaica
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mickyhoss Posted on 18/10/2019 19:00
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@Hackney: Demont and Granby that year.
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glimmer Posted on 18/10/2019 19:24
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I think The Clash were an opportunist band who eventually fell into a genre (punk/new wave)that gave them success - for that reason I was always a bit suspicious of them.
Having said that Joe Strummer was one of the great voices - rip

Saw them at Granby Halls when all I can really remember is a torrent of spit and the band threatening to walk off

And finally, 'give em enough rope' must be one of the worst 'second' albums ever- loathed it!
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sgt_wilko Posted on 18/10/2019 19:37
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Granby Halls was the On Parole tour. Support was the Coventry Automatics & Suicide.
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wearthefoxhat Posted on 18/10/2019 20:27
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Plastic punk tho they kicked out some decent tunes & Strummer died far too soon.
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northleicsblue Posted on 18/10/2019 21:28
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yes tudor

Alexa play Janie Jones by the Clash...
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Filbo65 Posted on 18/10/2019 22:28
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Walt – Mr and Mrs Wints haven't forgotten The Jam...[;)]
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 18/10/2019 22:37
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Of course Filbo & there's a couple with taste.

I just think that The Jam( & I'm biased ) are often overlooked, to my mind they were one of the great British bands.

Plenty of bands played live on TOTP, the clash could have if they wanted to
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hackneyfox Posted on 18/10/2019 22:52
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Forgot about Suicide but seeing the Coventry Automatics is still something to shout about when the two tone youngsters start.
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Filbo65 Posted on 18/10/2019 23:22
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I wasn't aware, Walt. D'ya mind if I call you The Third Stalker from now on...[;)]
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EMExile Posted on 19/10/2019 07:16
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Wiki.

"Most performers on TOTP mimed until 1991 when the producers of the show allowed artists the option of singing live over a backing track"

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mickyhoss Posted on 19/10/2019 07:24
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The Stranglers legendary TOTP appearance doing No More Heroes
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Walthamstowblue Posted on 19/10/2019 19:15
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If Wiki is your thing there's also a list of bands who played live on there.
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eastlondonfox Posted on 19/10/2019 21:46
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Plastic punk really? The Clash, Ramones and Pistols are punk royalty, which they later transcended.
Always brilliant live saw them first at the Rainbow in the space of about 18 months for a period the best rock and roll band in the world. When they played about 7 nights at the Lyceum truly good musicians.

The Jam who I still think of as a punk attitude band despite the suits also a truly great group. All Mod Cons a truly brilliant album.
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sabredunce Posted on 20/10/2019 04:38
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Plastic punk is right. Too many stories from them recording in LA - sabotaging the sets of their peers.

They actively went after the Dils, to purchase their catalogue and when refused, they bribed stage hands and stage engineers to close down the acts.
It's difficult to imagine anyone staying-up without throwing-up through Rude Boy. What an pretentious, unwatchable, pile of $hit.
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eastlondonfox Posted on 20/10/2019 06:38
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What is the real deal punk then sabredance? Aside from the pistols the Clash of all the UK probably inspired the formation of more bands than anyone, including the good Specials, Ruts and XXXXXXe Alarm. Rude boy admittedly not the strongest script but pretentious? Plus the footage of the band live is excellent.
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eastlondonfox Posted on 20/10/2019 06:55
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All bands and Acts to an extent are manufactured. Including the very best. The Beatles were smartened up by Brian Epstein, the Stones (middle class boys) put on the naughty boy image. The Sex Pistols were Malcolm Maclaren’s baby. It’s Rock and roll and pop music where image is everything. Doesn’t stop some of it being brilliant.
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sabredunce Posted on 20/10/2019 07:07
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The list is endless, Dils, Avengers, Dead Boys, K-Tels, Gassenhausser - on and on. The music? Whatever floats your boat.

The Clash injecting themselves into that scene, self-proclaimed Gods of the genre and poisoning it, is a matter of record.

Never managed to separate the Clash interpretation of reggae from Snow.
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EMExile Posted on 20/10/2019 08:30
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Walthamstowblue?

I'm not saying bands never played live on TOTP, I'm saying The Clash wanted to play live and were told they couldn't and had to mime, so they refused to play at all.
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