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SohoFox Posted on 13/08/2019 07:40
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Thought they played much more exciting football than our incessant tippy-tappy passing going nowhere.
Defending deep then win the ball and knock it fast up to the front guys to run onto at pace then sprint and get the shot away.
Reminds me of us a few years ago when we were a joy to watch.
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stokiefox Posted on 13/08/2019 07:43
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It all seems a lifetime away now !!!


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DagenhamFox Posted on 13/08/2019 08:07
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There will be games we’ll have to have the majority of possession. It’s the way it goes, especially at home when many teams now come to us ultra defensively.

I take it as a massive compliment that a team like Wolves are trying to emulate our style of 15-16. I find it a pleasure that none of them will get the same success as we had playing that style.
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snootyfox Posted on 13/08/2019 08:12
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Hang on......he’s had 6 months to come up with something since the first time a team rolled up to ‘do a job on us’
Nothing has changed, wtf is an experienced manager doing with his team tactics when this happens again and again.
Get a plan B for fcuk sake!
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SohoFox Posted on 13/08/2019 08:57
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Well come on Daggers!
Wolves haven't done at all badly with their football approach so far.
Waltzed to the Championship title.
7th in their first year back in the PL.
Into Europe at the first time of asking.
Breezing through the qualifying rounds of the Europa League thus far.
Not to be sniffed at is it?
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swabianfox Posted on 13/08/2019 13:42
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A word of caution here: whilst we didn't exactly hit the ground running, due to their early start into the season Wolves are perhaps a few games ahead in terms of form and preparation.

That is by no means a guarantee though, that their additional load of European games won't fetch its price later in the season. Poisoned chalice of European qualification still to come?
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sixthswan Posted on 13/08/2019 13:59
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Wolves played in a similar way against Man City last season and again got a draw. I'm surprised that Pep didn't resign straight after the game.
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ClaphamFox Posted on 13/08/2019 14:34
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In addition to taking a point against Man City last year, Wolves took four points off arsenal, Chelsea and Man Utd, and three points off Spurs. Their overall record in their 12 games against the top six was: won 4, drew 4 and lost 4. They're not a bad side at all.

I suspect that part of the reason why so many people seem to think Sunday was a bad result is that they still regard Wolves as inferior opposition. That's a bit of an outdated view.
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Filbo65 Posted on 13/08/2019 14:40
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True. Coupled with one poxy effort on target.
Our inability to break down a well-organised deep defence reminded me of Newcastle in April – except that Perez didn't score...
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DagenhamFox Posted on 13/08/2019 15:02
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Agree not to be sniffed at although they won’t win the league, or the Europa League.

I’d still rather not have to go through the early qualifying rounds like Wolves and Burnley did last season although there comes a time when you have to bite the bullet and go for it.
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essingtonblue Posted on 13/08/2019 15:13
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What Swabian has said & a few more in other posts is simply not true regarding them being ahead of us in preparation due to them playing 3 ‘competitive’ games before Sunday.
We had harder, more competitive workouts in our preseason friendlies than them due, to the level of opposition they played. They’ve been playing part timers. Except for jota every player was half a yard off the pace, slow on the ball etc etc.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 13/08/2019 15:15
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We did actually create the best chance of the game though.

Plus besides the negative statistics and slant that many have put on the performance there were some encouraging signs aswell.

We had 16 shots. Which was the 3rd highest in the Prem in the first round of matches.

Plus the 2nd highest possession and the 4th highest pass completion.

We also kept what I see as a very talented attacking Wolves side away from our penalty area for the majority of the time. And kept a deserved clean sheet because of it. With a bit of help from VAR. I didn't think Wolves were entertaining at all personally.

Undoubtedly as always there are areas we need to work on but Wolves defended very well against us.

I was quite pleased with the point even though it was a sh!te game.

We will play completely differently on Sunday I would think. Less possession but more space for attackers to play in. I would say we have a good chance of at least a point. We got all 3 last year.

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yorkfox Posted on 13/08/2019 15:25
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Wolves easy pre season fixtures included thumping Newcastle 4-0 and drawing 0-0 with Man City.
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SohoFox Posted on 13/08/2019 16:38
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That was the most boring game from Leicester I have seen for years and years.
The only highlight was Lord Farquaard.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 13/08/2019 16:41
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Yes Farquaard was good. And so was Evans.

Ndidi MOM for me. Tielemans best of the rest.
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Worcesterfox Posted on 13/08/2019 16:41
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4th highest "pass completion"? It's easy to complete a pass if the recipient is two yards away and in your own half.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 13/08/2019 16:45
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Yeah maybe but thumping it 50 yards forward at a deep defence wasn't going to work either on Sunday was it. Wolves came to stifle us and we did the same to them by keeping possession and trying to find openings. I think the point is that we didn't give it away regularly which could be seen as a positive

It was dull as sh!te I agree but many will lose to Wolves this season by trying to play more expansively.
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SohoFox Posted on 13/08/2019 18:37
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All I am trying to say is this endless, endless tippy tappy passing sideways, backwards, then sideways again and then backwards - all still in their own half is just sooooo faaacking boring.
That 70% possession figure means naff all.
Even watching Man City play it is so boring.
Although some of their stuff once they get near to the oppo box is impressive.
I liked Wolves' tempo when they broke. It reminded me of us 3 or 4 years ago.
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essingtonblue Posted on 13/08/2019 20:10
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But York, they weren’t competitive games. Well not as competitive as playing crusaders of Belfast & pyunik of Armenia.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 13/08/2019 22:56
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Yeah but Wolves sat so deep that if we had tried to play that style it wouldn't have worked. That is our problem. Teams rate us now so they set out to nullify our weapons. We can't play that way any more.

So we did try to draw them out to create some space but Wolves were disciplined on Sunday.

That game was like a chess match. A sh!t chess match.

When we were playing teams 3 or 4 years ago everybody thought they could beat us so we could sucker punched them with counter attacks in the early part of the season. Later on we adapted our style once teams had worked us out and won a bunch of games 1-0 by keeping it tight and taking our chances.

We scored quite a few from corners aswell unless my memory deceives me. If we had a threat from set pieces on Saturday we may well have won the game. It would certainly have helped. But we sold our main set piece threat last week.
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SohoFox Posted on 13/08/2019 23:18
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Good points.
But I promise you I wasn't the only one yawning in the West Stand on Sunday.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 14/08/2019 00:02
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Plenty in the Family Stand aswell.

It was awful to watch at times. If someone had converted that driven Tielemans cross in the first half it would have made a better game of it.

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Filbo65 Posted on 14/08/2019 00:16
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How many times did our recently-flogged main threat at corners actually produce anything? I remember BHA at home 17-18 via his shoulder, away at Newcastle in September 2018, and one other somewhere. Oh, and the one for England...
He was more of a threat than say Wilf, but I would've been too.
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harwichfox Posted on 14/08/2019 01:40
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Have to agree with Soho it was deja vu Claude even Piper and the Mercury were highly critical which is poor for a so called top manager,the bit that annoyed every one was his team selection a defensive side against a team knackered and therefore defensive team.It was worse than the man City game where we spent most of the time in our own 18 yard box and Vardy went off for a game of darts. It got better when Barnes and Albrighton came on too late though we were lucky there finishing was poor otherwise we'd have lost easily. XXXXXXing disgraceful. 3/10 for effort.
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DagenhamFox Posted on 14/08/2019 02:31
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It’s all ifs and buts.

If Ndidi’s shot he pulled wide was on target and if Vardy had got something on the one that fizzed across the goal we’d have won.
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essingtonblue Posted on 14/08/2019 06:59
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Copy & paste that ndidi sentence daggers because you well know that may be used for the next 37 games, because as top draw as he is with breaking up play, his shooting is abysmal & shows no sign of getting better.
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snootyfox Posted on 14/08/2019 07:08
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If their bloke had stayed on his feet when bearing down on goal, and the mad var call hadn’t have been there, they’d have won.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 14/08/2019 09:20
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I agree Snooty. Tight game against good oppo. Could have gone either way. But I thought we were the better side. Even though both teams were below par.

VAR call was correct.

Too many being too negative on here though. It was hardly Puel ball. Puel ball had many more misplaced passes than that. And at least we can understand him.
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ClaphamFox Posted on 14/08/2019 09:38
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If we'd have played a more attacking formation it might have worked, but it could just have easily played right into Wolves' hands and ended up with us losing 0-3. It was a tight game between two evenly-matched teams that both have ambitions of breaking into the top six. Sometimes teams nullify each other tactically - it's not the end of the world. This Sunday will likely be a very different kind of game.
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LGFOX Posted on 14/08/2019 10:05
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They had their game plan which worked brilliantly last season and so why discontinue it. I agree that some people see them as a ‘just come up from the championship’ side still. They’re not.
What was most disappointing to me was we had those 12 corners and did zip with them. They looked far more dangerous from their 3 than ever we did. It’s something we need to work on big time. Don’t just fizz it into the box every time. Try something different for goodness sake.
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ArleseyFoxile Posted on 14/08/2019 10:11
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I thought the delivery was OK apart from a few. Their 2 centre backs were massive though and it felt like we could have had 50 corners and not scored. LG Fox is right. We need to be more threatening up there. Work required although do we have the right personnel?
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ClaphamFox Posted on 14/08/2019 10:24
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Well we just sold our main aerial threat to Man Utd, so against any opposition with big centre-halves the tactic of whipping crosses into the box is highly unlikely to work. But then that tactic hardly ever works for any team anyway. Far better to treat corners as an opportunity to gain possession around the opposition box than an opportunity to whip a hopeful ball in that just gets cleared.
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youlittleripper Posted on 14/08/2019 15:27
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Maguire rarely actually looked like scoring from corners. Is main 'threat' was to head the ball back across goal. Ndidi personally always looks the most threatening from corners but doesn't score anywhere near enough from the aerially chances he creates.
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