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hackneyfox Posted on 14/03/2019 11:07
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One former British soldier is to be charged with the murders of two men and the attempted murders of four others over the XXXXXX Sunday shootings in Londonderry.

There was insufficient evidence to provide a reasonable prospect of conviction for the other 16 former soldiers, the Public Prosecution Service said.
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outfoxed Posted on 14/03/2019 11:20
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I don't know a great deal about all this but I was under the impression that the good Friday agreement was that all past murders would be left in the past so that everyone could move on.

Can someone that knows more tell me if that is the case?
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stokiefox Posted on 14/03/2019 11:26
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Only the wonderful IRA freedom fighters..including the Scum bag who blew up the innocent people of Birmingham in the 2 Pubs in the 70's

Any more for any more??

[:D]
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hackneyfox Posted on 14/03/2019 11:39
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I believe the Good Friday agreement led to the release of 'political prisoners' not those committed of murders.
I also believe that the current inquest into the Birmingham Pub Bombings won't name the fcuker as it may muddy the waters.
Why he/they haven't been charged is beyond me. At least the name would be out there.
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renard Posted on 14/03/2019 12:14
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Maze

Link: releases
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hackneyfox Posted on 14/03/2019 12:39
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In that case will they charge him and if they find him guilty not imprison him?
It would be wrong to imprison anyone for offences committed before that amnesty if you've allowed murderers like that out.
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renard Posted on 14/03/2019 12:40
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Logically yes. I have an uneasy feeling about it though.
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GTIF Posted on 14/03/2019 12:46
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From what I know the main suspect in the Birmingham bombings is dead.
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kendalfox Posted on 14/03/2019 12:56
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What fukcing next Cyprus Kenya these barstewards so weak kneed know fukcall about being under stress from being targets
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Oadlad Posted on 14/03/2019 14:53
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First, the amnesty included the UVF, UDA and RH murder gangs who exclusively targeted civilians (see Voices from the Grave by Ed Moloney) and secondly the Paras in question were not targeted on that day.
On a wider and more topical note - several questions come to mind.
Who commissioned the Paras to police a demonstration?
They are the Dobermans of the Army and arguably the least appropriate choice.
On the same note, they are a disciplined outfit and would not have fired unless ordered to do so. Who gave that order? And why isn't he being considered for prosecution?
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Oadlad Posted on 14/03/2019 14:53
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First, the amnesty included the UVF, UDA and RH murder gangs who exclusively targeted civilians (see Voices from the Grave by Ed Moloney) and secondly the Paras in question were not targeted on that day.
On a wider and more topical note - several questions come to mind.
Who commissioned the Paras to police a demonstration?
They are the Dobermans of the Army and arguably the least appropriate choice.
On the same note, they are a disciplined outfit and would not have fired unless ordered to do so. Who gave that order? And why isn't he being considered for prosecution?
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kendalfox Posted on 14/03/2019 16:28
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Never has a superior officer been blamed for anything, regardless of his duties to his men
THIS PROBLEM IS EVEN FROM HIGHER IN THE CHAIN OF COMMAND, but as he will never be named the poor SQUADDIE under orders, takes it full brunt this inquiry should never have seen the light of day, as the soldier in question was following instructions and IF he did'nt.... he would be charged with dereliction of duty which imposes a lengthy spell in an Army prison
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devoid Posted on 14/03/2019 16:54
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The Paras are thugs who took great joy in goading and maltreating the catholics in NI,spitting at women and putting the rifle butts up women’s skirts, you only have to listen to some ex paras talk about their “escapades “ during the troubles ,oh how they laughed !!!!!
One day it was gonna come back and bite them in the arris and on this one I think they have got off lightly
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kendalfox Posted on 14/03/2019 17:06
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Are they????? were you there
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Drew-Peacock Posted on 14/03/2019 17:14
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I don't suppose for a minute that the locals threw rocks or petrol bombs or even shot at the army and they certainly never knew anyone who planted bombs.

The IRA liked to call it a war.
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Filbo65 Posted on 14/03/2019 18:15
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A one-sided amnesty isn't a good idea.
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LeicesterRino Posted on 14/03/2019 19:59
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How did the soldiers know which women were catholic
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wearthefoxhat Posted on 14/03/2019 20:19
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What's your view on this two_stroke, you're ex Para.
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northleicsblue Posted on 14/03/2019 22:10
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The people who were killed that day were unlawfully killed. The Saville inquiry took 12 years coming to that conclusion.
The police have taken 3 years getting this evidence together. The prosecution service have reviewed it, decided 16 people have no realistic chance of conviction, but one has.
I can't think of a way due process could have been better followed.
Why are people so het up?
Soldier F will get a fair trial.
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renard Posted on 14/03/2019 22:56
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It depends on the sentence.
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wearthefoxhat Posted on 14/03/2019 23:06
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Soldier F has been chosen to be the token target to appease the family of the dead.
Now where's the token IRA soldier disappeared to?
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northleicsblue Posted on 14/03/2019 23:14
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That's nonsense.
If they hadn't decided there was a reasonable chance, they wouldn't have gone ahead. They just let 16 out of 17 go.
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Filbo65 Posted on 14/03/2019 23:18
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Not so sure.
They had to be seen to prosecute at least one soldier after the £12m enquiry said they were unlawfuly killed, under today's expectations and 'rules'.
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northleicsblue Posted on 14/03/2019 23:21
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I'm usually game for a conspiracy theory, but I just don't buy it here
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collibosher70 Posted on 15/03/2019 01:20
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What next...soldiers from rourkes drift on race crime shootings...stinks from top to bottom
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sabredunce Posted on 15/03/2019 03:11
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'I'm usually game for a conspiracy theory, but I just don't buy it here'

So a trial that's possibly politically expedient, or populist in nature is right up there with UFOs and holograms on 9/11?
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Surffers Posted on 15/03/2019 03:47
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I am not in the lest bit surprised the establishment is taking the side of anti British rioters and going after an old man,shame on the filth that now run the UK.
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Southwiggy Posted on 15/03/2019 05:02
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Where's Our Tommy when we need him[B)]
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ibbosuk Posted on 15/03/2019 09:13
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Time to bury all this (On both sides) or it with refuel all the bad feeling, if that happens it could all just start up again. People should be very careful of what “justice” they ask for...
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Oadlad Posted on 15/03/2019 09:39
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More drivel from Surffers.
The 'establishment' tried to bury the truth for twelve years and have offered one Lance Corporal up to be tried.
Why can't you handle the facts?
Those soldiers were acting for the 'establishment' and if it was in a wrong way then any decent Brit should be ashamed.
In truth (try that for once) the officer class of the day has slipped away to escape justice.
I think that the massive overreaction to an unarmed, peaceful demo was meant to lay a marker down to the Irish nationalist part of the province and that is true 'terrorism'.
That day swelled the ranks of the armed anti Crown bodies. A true own goal for not tolerating a citizens demo.
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henry56 Posted on 15/03/2019 09:56
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I Dont buy this under stress argument . They are trained professionsl soldiers and opening fire on unarmed civilians however provioking isnt an option . No one disputes our Army is one of the best trained and professional in the world and is rightly respected as such. These sort of incidents like the shooting of a prisoner in Afghanistan only bring it into disrepute if we fail to adhere to the rules of engagement . The hatred indiscriminate killing and perceived injustice creates ,only risks servicemen’s lives.
As an analogy . Generally the Wermacht were seen as a respected enemy inWW2,. The SS who treated their prisoners and civilisns appallingly were despised even by many Germans and other fighting units . Little mercy was shown to them when captured and rightly so. Our armed services l have to be accountable . Its what makes us better than ‘them’
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Oadlad Posted on 15/03/2019 10:55
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Well written...[^]
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Surffers Posted on 15/03/2019 11:03
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One of my brothers served as a Royal Marine in NI he was shot at and abused most days, he never wanted to be there or took sides he tried to protect the general population.
He bought himself out after his second tour because of the lack of real support from the government.
The establishment only cared about world opinion not the poor foot soldier.
The filth on here decrying our forces are not worth protecting .
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Oadlad Posted on 15/03/2019 11:35
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I'm confused here - your brother tried to serve in a decent and honourable way, left as he felt let down by 'lack of real support from the government'.
Meaning what?
Joining the services, at the end of the day, is volunteering to doing politicians' dirty work for them.
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Surffers Posted on 15/03/2019 11:55
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No he joined to serve his country as did my dad in Korea and uncles in Singapore.
My uncles managed to live through the building of the Japanese Burma death railway both died early because of ill health.
To blame the army for the idiots in NI is beyond comtemp.
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kendalfox Posted on 15/03/2019 13:00
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The one glaring aspect of this case that causes concern to be is Tony Blair absolves all the crimes committed by the para military and set them free whist our troops are being slaughtered by a one sided ideal . This is not justice it's a witch hunt
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GTIF Posted on 15/03/2019 13:20
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The difference is Kenadl those he set free were correctly and justifiably locked up in the first place.
So far nobody has been for XXXXXX Sunday.
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Drew-Peacock Posted on 15/03/2019 13:28
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How long did Gerry Adams serve?
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GTIF Posted on 15/03/2019 13:35
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About three months from March to June 1972 and was released to begin peace talks in Downing Street.
What has that to do with XXXXXX Sunday though.
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Oadlad Posted on 15/03/2019 13:48
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Surffers - sorry still don't get it. Are you saying that the army was wrongly sent to NI (part of the UK)?
'Serving the country' includes using it against fellow citizens when deemed necessary by the government. See Peterloo.
Historically the first defenders of the Crown are the police (check the first lines of their oath) and if the threat gets more serious that is where the army come in.
It's in our DNA that serving the country always involves doing it somewhere else.
Contempt?
I always admired the Paras but their proud legacy has been besmirched for ever by XXXXXX Sunday. And, lets not forget the IRA obtained a XXXXXX revenge at Warrenpoint
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