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Fast_Fourier_Transformation Posted on 09/02/2019 01:02
Edited On: 09/02/2019 12:40No way we should have points deducted........
 
I can't believe that BST would even suggest that could happen, after everything we have suffered over the last few years. It gives them an excuse to do it imo. To even mention it is a mistake. It's because of the incompetent idiots at the EFL we are in this position in the first place. BST should have made a statement that in no way should a points deduction be acceptable.
So because of those incompetent pr!cks at the EFL, we have have spent 4/5 years boycotting and when it is finally sorted (if it does happen) they then deduct points off the team who have been managed superbly for the last 12 months by Terry McPhillips.
What a load of XXXXXX!
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nazzer Posted on 09/02/2019 01:28

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 09/02/2019 06:07

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
According to the High Court judgement Owen has stolen the money from Val and has to pay it back.

“Why should the football club suffer” should be the BST line
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 09/02/2019 06:52
Edited On: 09/02/2019 06:54
No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Morning Tam

"dealing with things sensibly and realistically in a way that is based on practical rather than theoretical considerations."

Owen has been found guilty of asset stripping, that is not theoretical it's a fact.

Sensibly, the Football Club should not lose points for Owens criminal actions as he doesn't give a F2ck about the Club and only cares about himself as he has shown over and over again.

The Club has suffered practically in all aspects due to the Oystons and the EFL not giving f@ck so the EFL should now consider the FANS, the players, manager and staff FIRST.
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kieronjames1 Posted on 09/02/2019 07:10

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Yep it's BST's fault.

Much better to ignore the rules and not make your members aware of the "possibilities".
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Curryman Posted on 09/02/2019 07:31

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
methinks it's a touch of reverse psychology if anyone from the EFL reads it. [8)]
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straightatthewall Posted on 09/02/2019 07:37

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
If the club ‘breaks the rules’ then it will be punished in the standard way. It really is that simple.
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Delfino Posted on 09/02/2019 07:55

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Morning FFT :-)
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thefutureistangerine Posted on 09/02/2019 08:24

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I couldn’t care less how many points they deduct. Until the oystons have gone it matters not. That could well be a long way off yet!
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 09/02/2019 08:45

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
james1 you are the only poster to say it’s the fault of BST
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BFC_BFC_BFC Posted on 09/02/2019 08:48

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I'm not XXXXXXd if we get points deducted or not. [^]
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NorthernLight Posted on 09/02/2019 09:29

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
After what we've been through we should get 12 points added
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thedevilsadvocate2 Posted on 09/02/2019 09:55

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Why wouldn't the EFL deduct us 12 points ? Shaun Harvey will be salivating at the thought of retribution after the barracking we have given him and his institution.
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Delfino Posted on 09/02/2019 09:57

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
O/P has a point.

When the time is right, maybe we should be lobbying the EFL to exercise their discretion, rather than highlighting what they have the power to do
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no-more-lies Posted on 09/02/2019 09:57

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
EFL now given Scholes ok to take over at Oldham. That breaks their own rules . [:O]Theyre not very good at this are they.
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cashcow Posted on 09/02/2019 10:01

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
How many members does BST have ?

How much would it cost to take action against EFL

I would like to see BST take action against the EFL for not following their rules.
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Zico_Bamber Posted on 09/02/2019 10:19

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I think in the event of a points deduction, legal action should be sought if possible. Not just against the decision but previous ones regarding their own rules.
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Delfino Posted on 09/02/2019 11:21

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I think cashcow has a point worth considering.

If the receivership application goes through, and the 12 point deduction happens and happens to be significant (i.e. relegation or takes us out of the play offs), then perhaps our principle supporters group could consider the legal challenge. Maybe crowd fund for a QC. Suing the EFL would get some publicity!
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davepick1 Posted on 09/02/2019 11:34

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
We all know that we don't think we should be penalised with a 12 point deduction.
Getting at BST is stupid, they are merely suggesting what might happen. They have to consider every scenario.
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tangerinenick Posted on 09/02/2019 12:06

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
This would indeed present a case to the EFL with no precedent. The EFL could indeed look at it fundamentally as a legal battle between two owners and not deduct 12 points. Since, as TAM has pointed out quite rightly, the EFL have failed to apply their own rules who knows?

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Keglersuper Posted on 09/02/2019 12:08

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Lot of people getting excited over nothing recently
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cashcow Posted on 09/02/2019 12:38

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
DP I wasn't having a go at BST it was a serious question.

I know they are asking an experts opinion and should they require funding for a challenge and have a ball park figure, I would not mind receiving an email asking me as a member to donate a set amount to help reach a target.

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20togo Posted on 09/02/2019 13:07

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
seems to me some on here would enjoy us having 12 pts deducted. How strange!
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cashcow Posted on 09/02/2019 13:13

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I thought I remembered seeing something recently TAM.

Good luck with it and if funds are needed email the members for a set amount that doesn't have to all be paid at once if it helps them out.

I would contribute
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Fast_Fourier_Transformation Posted on 09/02/2019 22:27

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Very strange indeed 20's. I can't believe that any points deduction should be deemed as acceptable by anyone associated with BFC and we certainly shouldn't give the clowns at the EFL an excuse to apportion their pathetic 'rules' which they appear to make up to suit their agendas.
I wasn't meaning to have a go at BST, I was suggesting that BST should be campaigning to make sure it doesn't happen!
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Don_K_Lasher Posted on 09/02/2019 23:30

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
If the club has spent money it does not have and overspent it (the club) will suffer the consequences.

Bearing in mind Karl Oyston was a director when the Football Fair Play was introduced, the EFL can't brush it under the table.


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BRR2 Posted on 09/02/2019 23:46

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
FFT

you're a bit late, the lobbying has been underway for some time on a range of issues.

Pointing to the existence of rules is not an invitation to use them. It's just a simple statement of fact.
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Fast_Fourier_Transformation Posted on 10/02/2019 00:04

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I'm not a bit late at all! I was commenting on statements which appeared in the Gazette on Friday which were alluding to us receiving a twelve point penalty should we go into receivership. I am suggesting that in no way that should happen and BST should be making that crystal clear to the EFL and the media; that's all.
(I obviously don't know what is going on behind the scenes).
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Delfino Posted on 10/02/2019 10:02

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Tsk, tsk Fft. You're not allowed to comment on such matters
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angelbfc Posted on 10/02/2019 10:20

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
If they let us off the 12 points it sets a precedent

Receivership is receivership . I doubt the authorities look beyond or make special exception
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20togo Posted on 10/02/2019 10:34

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Agree with you FFT.

I also think the EFL are already looking very closely at what's happening at BFC. They will be already aware of BST and the representations they will make to quote regulations to suggest the EFL have acted against their own rules. They will no doubt be aware that BST are seeking the guidance of a QC in various matters.

The situation at Blackpool is unique and the circumstances in which the club may be placed into receivership are unlike what has happened at any other club before. ie it's not about overspending, it's about a dispute between two owners and where a High Court Judge has ruled a verdict that one of the owners has asset stripped the club rather than fund it. Pretty compelling reasons in my mind to view why a twelve point deduction should NOT happen.

Should the worse come to the worse and we do get the deduction is there a route of appeal - ie to the Court of Arbitration for Sport where perhaps a QC could earn his money?
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Delfino Posted on 10/02/2019 11:25

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
TAM, what are you planning to do with making the legal opinion public or not?

There is a risk in my eyes that the QC concludes a more pessimistic view than the EFL would have done themselves, and we end up giving them an easy option.
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davepick1 Posted on 10/02/2019 11:44

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Can someone explain the difference between 'Receivership' and 'Administration'?
Is it the same thing or is there a difference?
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20togo Posted on 10/02/2019 12:04

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I'll have a guess Dave but might be wrong.

Administration is an admittance by the owner that he hasn't got the funds to keep the club going.

Receivership is where ownership is taken out of the owners hands because they fail to comply with previous made judgements.

Simplistic analogy which may not be totally accurate.
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Wizaard Posted on 10/02/2019 12:10

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
"seems to me some on here would enjoy us having 12 pts deducted. How strange!"

Or even more than that.

It matters because it will be only imposed after Oyston leaves. Hatred of Oyston is greater than the love of the club. In which case, what's the point?
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dukeandpepi Posted on 10/02/2019 12:15

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
No Pool fan will be pleased with a 12 point deduction.
However most would accept this for the removal of the O’s.
It would be exciting time to go back and support the team if it happens.
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insider Posted on 10/02/2019 12:20

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Am I the only person on here that doesn't think a 12 point deductin is inevitable?
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20togo Posted on 10/02/2019 12:22

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
no, but is that more in hope than anything else?
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abt1835 Posted on 10/02/2019 12:40

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
Yet another example of BST trying to interfere with something that is nothing to do with them and over which they have no influence.

It is to be hoped that the EFL don't take into account the hassle that BST have caused already, when coming to a decision.
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insider Posted on 10/02/2019 13:16

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
20s. I obviously don't know and it is in hope but the more I read the Regs the more I believe the EFL won't enforce a deduction. IMO to do so would be outside the spirit of the Regulations.
I'd like to see the minutes of the discussions that took place when the Regulations were being drafted.
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GJJW Posted on 10/02/2019 13:20

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
What hassle has BST caused?
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GJJW Posted on 11/02/2019 07:09

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
abt....still waiting?

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Delfino Posted on 11/02/2019 21:09

No XXXXXX way we should have points deducted........
I hope you are right insider.

You would expect the EFL would take into account
- Precedents
- The intention behind the clause which allows for special circumstances
- The intention behind the reason the 12 point clause was introduced

However, I expect it will come down to who is liked and who isnt.
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adamswonkyteeth Posted on 12/02/2019 08:27

No way we should have points deducted........
No way should we, but reading the EFL's line I think we will be. Not going to miss a final chance to stick two fingers up at us.
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