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seasidersway Posted on 15/07/2017 06:47
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does marijuana help to relieve pain of arthritis, or is it a myth ,if so can you buy it legally
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BFC1980 Posted on 15/07/2017 07:45

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It might help with the pain but maybe not with inflammation.
What medication are you taking? Methotrexate and prednisolone?
My 2 year old daughter has been diagnosed with JIA (in April) and is going through hell at the moment. She's on methotrexate and steroids. The steroids worked great but now we're reducing them, the pain is back. Her paed rheumatologist isn't so sure the methotrexate is working so has suggested we switch to a biological therapy. It's supposed to be a wonder drug for arthritis but the side effects are also supposed to be pretty harsh.
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rockontommy Posted on 15/07/2017 07:51

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Will mask the pain in the same way booze would. The pot heads need to pipe down on this one. It's not a medicine and never will be.
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 15/07/2017 08:47
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Apple Cider Vinegar for arthritis is the way to go and it's a cheap natural product.

Table spoon in a glass of hot water with honey if you want to sweeten it. 2 or 3 times a day and you should feel the difference same day or in a few days.

Helps with gout as well for you bevvy merchants
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Bennit Posted on 15/07/2017 09:42

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Cannabis infused coconut oil. Rub it into the skin before bed. A mate makes it for his step mum, she couldn't use her hands much. Rubs it on before bed and wears gloves for it to absorb and has helped her out massively.
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kieronjames1 Posted on 15/07/2017 09:47

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Not or never have been a dope smoker but cannabis oil has proved to be a great help to many. It's a natural product that can't be trademarked so the pharmaceuticals continually deride it. The drug industry is only marginally behind the arms industry morally imho.
I have AS as a result of crohns but won't use "herbal" remedies so no vested interest from me, before the shouts.
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Lolly123 Posted on 15/07/2017 09:50

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Kieron- well said.
The oil is meant to be amazing.
The Americans are well ahead of us on this issue.
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therev Posted on 15/07/2017 09:56

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Cannabis oil might help .the CBD oil can be bought legally on ebay amazon etc , but the THC oil is still illegal here ,have a look at the phoenix tears cannabis oil advice site ,hope this is of some help .
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seasidersway Posted on 15/07/2017 09:58

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the wife as just been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. She is now waiting to see a consultant,
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glasshalffull Posted on 15/07/2017 10:48
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A former work colleague of mine claims to have cured her arthritis, and quite quickly, using cider vinegar and baking soda. I don't know what type of arthritis she had ( osteo/rheumatoid etc), but apparently she took it three times a day for a couple of weeks and then it seemed to kick in.
I think it was a tablespoon of vinegar (she said it had to be organic though?). and a third? of a teaspoon of baking soda mixed with warm water.
Can't see a child drinking that though!
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LANCASHIRELALA Posted on 15/07/2017 10:52

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Good luck and to your daughter BFC1980 [sad]
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29DaysLate Posted on 15/07/2017 11:15

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CBD oil, as another writer has said, provides the pain-killing benefits of cannabis, legally.

It doesn't work by masking pain as has been suggested - it is little known that there is an endo-cannabinoid receptor system present within the mammalian brain, and the central and peripheral nervous systems. Also, cannabinoids are available from around 50 plants, although cannabis would appear to be the richest source.

It works - I sell this stuff and, as regards pain, the most common response I hear is "I've gone from 8 co-codomol a day down to one."

It's safe and beneficial. Unfortunately the price has yet to drop which it will as, hopefully, more suppliers enter the market.
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 15/07/2017 11:51
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Here is a link for ACV uses, you can also ask questions on this site so you should get some helpful feedback


The cost of cannibis oil is in the hundreds of pounds so I believe, the ACV is probably a quid for half a liter

Link: Apple Cider Vinegar details
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Josuah98 Posted on 15/07/2017 12:31

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Which Arthritis? osteo is swelling of joints, Rheumatoid is immune system disorder. Both display in similar fashions but both totally different.
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Bennit Posted on 15/07/2017 13:02

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If you can aquire an amount of cannabis, it is quite easy to make the coconut oil. Just need to stick it inside a jar with the coconut oil and let it cook for quite a few hours. Then just strain it out afterwards. Will be left with a green liquid. If you do want to look into it. Let me know and i can help you with how to make it.
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 15/07/2017 13:07

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Bennit what cost are you looking at and what amount is required?

I believe it runs into hundreds of pounds ......
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BHenryStreet Posted on 15/07/2017 13:09

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Thought it was a modern pub name![smi]
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tangerine_neil Posted on 15/07/2017 13:48
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Interesting to read this about cider vinegar. I've also heard that mentioned to help reduce cholesterol.

Turmeric is another cheap, easy and relatively safe alternative for arthritis treatment, including rheumatoid arthritis. It's a very effective anti-inflamatory spice, rich in antioxidants. It can also help with diabetes, asthma, digestion, heart disease, dementia/Alzheimer's, depression, hair growth, skin condition, and the main ingredient of turmeric - curcumin - has been identified by research and laboratory tests to have anticancer effects on cells. I also know someone who has been using it to significantly reduce the effects of MS.

Some people make a drink of turmeric and apple cider vinegar. Others simply add the turneric spice to their food, on a daily basis.

Tbh, when you read the side effects of steroid treatments and drugs, it would make you think twice about taking them all all. Short term treatment, maybe. Long term, no thanks.
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 15/07/2017 14:03
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Neil [^]

What did the ancient Egyptian doctors use? All the herbal and natural remedy's that were available. There was no paracetamol, chemo or other man made drugs in them days [;)]
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AJMCK Posted on 15/07/2017 14:07

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Rockontommy why do you say that mate? Entitled to your opinion but just boggles me how some people choose to be unreasonable and rude from the get-go on this site
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tangerine_neil Posted on 15/07/2017 14:09

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Some modern drugs are brilliant, no doubt about it. But others are dangerous and have more side effects than benefits (most of which are not recorded). It's a big business though, run by people with a lot of influence.
The power of the Internet, means that people can now do their own research and look for other alternatives. [^]
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Bennit Posted on 15/07/2017 14:43

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For the proper black oil thats alot of money. For the coconut oil, you can use whatever you want. When i made some, i stuck an ounce in to around 500ml of oil. Total cost was about 182. That lasted quite a while being put into 00 gelatine capsules for consumption.
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 15/07/2017 15:12

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ACV is between 1.20 and 1.99 for 500ml (half a liter)

Nominal cost for the benifits available 💷
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therev Posted on 15/07/2017 15:23

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500mg CBD oil is 35 on ebay ,the rick simpson oil is around 2,000 for a 60 gram course
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tangerinedave Posted on 15/07/2017 15:45

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Is CBD just a aid for arthritis? or does it help with other painful problems?

I have previously ruptured ACL/PCL Medial ligaments in my left knee and have had three arthroscopies to remove cartilage, i now have OA in my left knee, i also have severe plantar facsiitis in both feet which drains every ounce of energy out of me through the working day and often have to crash into bed when i get home from work just to get my legs off the floor. The plantar climbs up through my ankles into my calf muscles and shins, it is so painful i sometimes don't sleep at all. The gp will only give me co codamol as i'm allergic to NSAID's. He has offered no other advice [:(!]

Anyone tried this for plantar pain?

I would love to find a cure for this.
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Clash Posted on 15/07/2017 17:56

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Propolis can help with osteoarthritis.
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rockontommy Posted on 15/07/2017 18:25

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AJMCK

As someone who has lost more than one family member to cannabis induced psychosis, my views on this so-called wonder drug are somewhat skewed.
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Bennit Posted on 15/07/2017 18:48

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Cbd has alot of healing properties. To be fair you might be better off with cbd than the thc and cbd. Have a look for cbd brothers on Google!
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dodgykeeper Posted on 15/07/2017 22:12

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It's really good to see so many with eyes open to natural alternatives when mainstream advice effectively labels them as 'fake news'.

ACV is great for lots of things, including for healthy people. I wouldn't put it in hot water though as the heat destroys some of the beneficial nutrients. Also, get raw, unfiltered ACV with the mother. It's much better than the ones supermarkets stock, although they are good too.

Cannabis is likely the most healing plant on the planet. Turmeric, ginger and garlic are great for healing rather than covering up pain signals. Get the real thing ideally, roots and garlic cloves, and chop them before eating. Black pepper helps you absorb turmeric.

For rheumatoid arthritis or any other autoimmune issue diet should be your first step as it is often an unsuitable diet that is repeatedly causing the symptoms. You don't realise because the autoimmune effects of eating something that isn't agreeing with you last 2 or 3 weeks. By that time you have eaten it again and kept the problem going. Grains, dairy, nightshades, legumes, it can be anything really. You have to experiment with a basic diet and then keep a record when you add things back in.
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BFC1980 Posted on 16/07/2017 00:56

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From your experiences, how long does it take in the UK from initial GP visit to a diagnosis from a rheumatologist?

Also, has anyone been prescribed the biological therapy via IV infusion? What were the side effects like? It's a really expensive drug and some articles I've read say that it's not cost effective for the NHS to provide it as arthritis isn't serious enough to warrant it. We've been quoted ridiculous prices for the biologics. If I remember right, it was around 800 per treatment.

For sure there are natural solutions out there that the huge pharmaceuticals want to suppress. We'll definitely give the turmeric and apple vinegar a try. Hopefully it'll have an impact.

Thanks for the good wishes Lala. She's going through a rough patch ever since we arrived in the UK for a few weeks. Swelling, pain, not sleeping. Maybe it's because of the cold, wet weather though. I don't know. Plus she's immunosuppressed so has caught a nasty throat infection and was hospitalised for a night. The NHS then slapped us with a 1500 bill for the pleasure as we're expats. But that's another story.
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Aero Posted on 16/07/2017 08:07
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Another vote here for Turmeric.
Over a year ago now, I started with arthritis in my knees. Sometimes I had to rest before I could walk home from the beach which is only a couple of hundred yards away.
I bought a walking stick and bought knee supports.
I read about Turmeric, bought Opti-Turmeric from Healthspan. Also bought powdered form to sprinkle on food when cooking. 2 tabs a day for a month, now just one a day.
A year on and I can now go for long walks and even do a bit of running.
Can barely feel anything in my knees. Just the occasional twinge.
No walking stick, no support.
Brilliant!

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tangerinedave Posted on 17/07/2017 20:21

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I have been using Turmeric and black pepper supplements for around 3 months along with cod liver oil oh and Glucosamine. I think it has helped with the knee problems, or at least they dont feel as angry as they used to.
My problem is with Plantar Fasciitis, i just can't get sort it.
Am i right in thinking that CBD is available as a vape juice? can that work?
I would love to find an alternative to painkillers.
Anyone with experience of it's effect on plantar?
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vegaspool Posted on 17/07/2017 20:30

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Just started selling it here Nevada it has become legal at State level.
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tangerine_neil Posted on 17/07/2017 20:46

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Dave: have you tried the good quality gel insoles? Like the sports variety?
I've used the Sorbothane double strike ones for doing long fell walks, and they do help. The principle should be the same.

Link: Other gel insoles
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tangerinedave Posted on 17/07/2017 20:48

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Vegas, is that in vape form? can it work that way?
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tangerine_neil Posted on 17/07/2017 20:51

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They even do these....

Link: Plantar fasciitis insoles with a tangerine base
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tangerinedave Posted on 17/07/2017 20:52

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Neil i have spent a small fortune on boots/insoles/physio. It wasn't so bad when it came and went but now it's 24/7, i dont even sleep because of it sometimes.
I see a podiatrist this weds so hopefully they will have something i have not tried.

The vape sounded like a good quick fix (pardon the pun)
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TEVEZ123 Posted on 17/07/2017 21:13

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BFC1980
HIYA, I have had rheumatoid arthritis since I was 16 years old in almost every joint in my body. I have had shoulder replacements, ankle replacement, ankle fusion , the list goes on . I an steroid dependent and have been on them 15 years. As soon as I go off them..... the pain returns.
There is no good time to get Arthriti, but at least she has a better chance than I had 45 years ago, with all the drugs like Retuximab, Infliximab, etc, and the one I'm on at the moment Abatacept . Good luck. TEVEZ123
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vegaspool Posted on 17/07/2017 21:20
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TD no its marijuana not vape, the store near me is for medical card holders or recreational users to just chill out. All you need is a picture id.

Link: Pot in NV
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dodgykeeper Posted on 17/07/2017 22:12

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Dave, have you tried the rolling pin under your feet, rolling back and forth for a few minutes two or three times a day, using quite a lot of pressure?

Then gentle static stretching with your heel on the floor and your toes up the wall.

Walk barefoot or in socks as much as you can and use all the individual muscles in your feet.

Magnesium supplements, fish oil and vitamin b5 should help too, in case you haven't tried any of these.
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vermontseasider Posted on 18/07/2017 01:51

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For plantar faciatis try platelet replacement therapy. I spend the last 45 years egg chasing with predictable wear and tear. The platelet replacement shots were unpleasant but healed my PF and ragged Achilles' tendons
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tangerinedave Posted on 18/07/2017 07:14

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Cheers Vegas and dodgy. Yea I have used the rolling pin exercise but it was too painful, I moved on to tennis balls with no luck, I have a shiatsu foot massager that is useless for the plantar but if I lay across it, it does give a good calf massage. Thanks for the input though I appreciate it.
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tangerinedave Posted on 18/07/2017 07:18

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I also use magnesium, I will report back what the podiatrist says, I have a feeling it's related to wearing work boots as it drops in pain 50% once I'm back in trainers.
Thanks again.
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Seasider_3610 Posted on 18/07/2017 07:39

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Have any of you arthritis sufferers tried the ACV yet? It it supposed to give some relief within a few days ....

Must worth a try surely? It would be interesting to get some feedback.
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tangerinedave Posted on 18/07/2017 08:17

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Vermont, I will be seeing the podiatrist tomorrow and will ask about that treatment as my Achilles are shot too.
Thanks for the tip[^]
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