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kentpompey Posted on 20/03/2017 22:04
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Yes
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costadelcowplain Posted on 20/03/2017 22:05
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1,000,000% yes
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RavoPFC Posted on 20/03/2017 22:05
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Not enough information to make informed decision even in principal.
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Norse-returns Posted on 20/03/2017 22:06
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No, and I wouldn't trust a man's thoughts like costa who thinks 1,000,000% is possible - a startling indication.
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hellsbollox Posted on 20/03/2017 22:17
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No... it's lamentable that fans could want to potentially put our club at risk such a relatively short time after seeing it almost killed off.
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Bluenote Posted on 20/03/2017 22:21
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No, unless the Trust retains a controlling stake. I can't believe people are rolling over so eagerly just a few years on from nearly going out of existence because of tw ats like this.
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BilltheCat Posted on 20/03/2017 22:22
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Some people have VERY short memories.

No.

(let's be honest.....this is a total non-starter anyway)
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woodstock222 Posted on 20/03/2017 22:37
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The angry bigots need to become realists. We will not be able to sustain life in the Champioship let alone the Premiership,under our current structure. An approach like this has to be seriously considered without listening to the overtures of fools.
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PlymouthGrahamOvertonBoy Posted on 20/03/2017 22:39
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difficult to say..Ive read micah Halls blog and I can see he has some good points..Im concerned about FP and the cost it will take to revamp-repair or start afresh somewhere custom built
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Bluenote Posted on 20/03/2017 22:41
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Fvck the Prem, and these people you're calling fools saved the Club.
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 20/03/2017 22:46
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No
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Norse-returns Posted on 20/03/2017 22:46
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Woodstock, I do not think anyone has spoken about championship or fvcking premiership, have they?

I mean ffs, talk about over stretching yourself, most people just want pompey to survive and live self-sufficiently, but you're here talking about the premier league?

I'll break it as gently as I can.

We're in league fvcking 2.

Nobody thinks that a club can continue the model in its current form if we were to be automatically moved into the prem. But we have a chance to try out this model - we are on an upward route currently, we aint gonna be in the champs for at least, realistically 2 or 3 years, so why drop the proverbial knickers to a bloke like this - a venture capitalist with no ties to the club, no love of 'soccer' nothing to connect him to the city.

Get fvcking real would ya.

Let's stress test out current model, maybe tweak it, maybe release some more shares that we can buy in to, then lets see how we are in a year or 2.

Don't be a sl@g.
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costadelcowplain Posted on 20/03/2017 22:46
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Oi Know-it-all-Norse, I've changed my mind ... Make that a 1,000,000,000%
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sdbblue Posted on 20/03/2017 22:52
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Yes
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 20/03/2017 22:55
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"The angry bigots need to become realists. We will not be able to sustain life in the Champioship let alone the Premiership,under our current structure. An approach like this has to be seriously considered without listening to the overtures of fools."

Realists, bigots and fools eh?
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 20/03/2017 22:56
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Bluenote - if this guy wants to put in say £20 million, and persuades some of the HNW's to join him (with some additional wealthy Pompey fans) with another 10million - how does the trust regain a controlling share if it agrees to the investment - and it can't raise 15 million in a normal fan's share investment?
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Bluenote Posted on 20/03/2017 23:03
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Gulf - we can't just roll over and give up this fan owned model at the first moneyman who makes eyes at us. There's a lot of mileage left in this fan owned principle, it's not exhausted and can get us to the Championship easily. Then we take stock, but I can't believe the bovine eagerness of some on here to immediately cash in. Saddens me.
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Albie01 Posted on 20/03/2017 23:08
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Not heard enough to make an informed decision, looks like he's done one anyway so it might be a moot point.
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Gulf_of_Tonking Posted on 20/03/2017 23:12
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This isn't the first guy to talk to the club btw.

I agree about not cashing in, and that has more to do with HNW's wanting to cash in, and not the majority of normal fans.

I have suggested several times to have a community HNW pot, but it always falls on deaf ears.

So, the question remains, what sort of share does this bloke want, and is he interested in helping to develop the stadium?

If the normal fans want a controlling share, they will have to demand en masse to have a new (proper) share collection. There seems to be resistance to this though.
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snowman Posted on 20/03/2017 23:20
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If he is 100% genuine then why on earth wouldn't u want him to takeover?
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Norse-returns Posted on 20/03/2017 23:23
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GoT, I can only imagine a venture capitalist like himself wanting total control of a club.

If I were to make a guess of how thing would be then:

The stadium which may be built will be built outside of the city, maybe strawberry fields in Farlington. It will be a soulless multi-venue bowl, 30k max. No subsequent infrastructure upgrade to enable people living in the city to get there.

Popcorn, cheerleaders, hot dogs whilst every yanko-phile fingers themselves up the @rsehole whilst screeching out 'the star spangled banner' and then sniffing their finger and talking about how they love to occasionally visit portsmouth, and oh, I usually go to chelsea but they were sold out today because tottingham united are playing them at the stamford stadium.

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Transcendence Posted on 20/03/2017 23:24
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If you want success, its gotta be a yes
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Norse-returns Posted on 20/03/2017 23:26
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Or maybe you'd hear 'I ranna gar to ra awl taffawww... man runitee man runitee'
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Rudibeans Posted on 20/03/2017 23:43
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Blue note is spot on. Keep him waiting, proceed as we are. Going quite nicely now.
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Mbesuma Posted on 20/03/2017 23:46
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Too early to say, but we'd be stupid not to listen to his offer at the very least. For me the draw of investment is not about becoming a PL club again, it's all about the ground. It's abundantly clear that we haven't got much hope of sorting it out by ourselves.
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muschi Posted on 20/03/2017 23:54
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Going quite nicely after 4 seasons in "this god awful league" with a wreck of a ground and not even a reserve team.

Investment is required.
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hammie9 Posted on 20/03/2017 23:54
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so we want a shiny ground and will mortgage the clubs future to someone who might die tomorrow and pass his ownership on to who exactly? Or put in place an american manager who has not got a clue? Or change our kit colour to red? All things that foreign owners have done to British football clubs while ignoring th fans completely. Are our memories so short?
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Gooders Posted on 21/03/2017 01:13
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No.
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waschrisburnsbelowsealevelheader Posted on 21/03/2017 06:54
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No. He's in it for the money - he'll come unstuck and we'll be XXXXXXed.

Again.

Why are some so obsessed with the premier league? You do know that period in the top division was just a spike in our fortunes don't you? We don't belong there.

We're a championship club - and our current model can get us there within the next few years. Once we've got ourselves settled up there, then ut might be worth looking at mega-bucks investors.
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turktown20 Posted on 21/03/2017 06:58
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whats the rush to get back into the Prem
I quite like the lower leagues. easy to get tickets games not moved about to much for TV , affordable tickets and a decent day out with my mates ,
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BlueView Posted on 21/03/2017 07:33
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Yes.
It's about 50/50 so far
But only in a partnership with fans, not a takeover
And read the contract very carefully this time
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Farehamisblue Posted on 21/03/2017 08:20
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Need to hear Carlin and Pete's thoughts before I can make an informed decision.
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DeepBlue Posted on 21/03/2017 08:29
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Far too early for anyone to make a decision as big as that.

Let's wait and see what he is offering and under what terms first.

But if he is the way to sort the ground out then we have to be interested and have to give him a chance instead of applying the short-sighted logic that previous foreign 'investors' have been bad therefore this one will be too. Not everyone is another Mandaric, Gaydamak, Chainrai or Antonov.
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paris_bleu Posted on 21/03/2017 08:34
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No until I'm convinced otherwise
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Saki Posted on 21/03/2017 08:42
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I say yes. People mentioning risk. Its as much a risk if we donít. How much longer do we think the club and ground can continue with little investment ? We will become one of the best supported teams in the national leagues with a two sided ground in a few years if we continue with the current model.
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Gilles_de_itsywitsyteenyweenyyellowpolkadotbikini Posted on 21/03/2017 08:51
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Been there, done that. Didn't end well.


No.
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exmanager Posted on 21/03/2017 08:53
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Yes
No brainer
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pfc_blues Posted on 21/03/2017 08:55
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I'd say yes if the terms were good for us. Some kind of deal involving the trust still as well as some kind of backup if he suddenly decides in a year or two he no longer wants in. We need some kind of thing in place to stop what happened before happening again.
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harmony309 Posted on 21/03/2017 09:01
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YES
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Gopher Posted on 21/03/2017 09:35
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For those that are shrieking no, must be aware that sooner or later, probably sooner, both the South and North stands will be condemned and the capacity will be reduced to around 11-12k.

This fan ownership project would be OK if those who put their hands in their pockets to save the club, and I'm one, would be able to stump up tens of thousands each to replace the stands but of course that won't happen.

Let's wait and hear the details of the offer first but my view is, bearing in mind the club's present infrastructure, we would be crazy to dismiss it and it of hand

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chave Posted on 21/03/2017 09:37
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Yes. The club needs investment, and we can always take it over again in twenty years if it all goes to pot.
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pompeyandpoor Posted on 21/03/2017 10:13
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Unless we get lucky like the stripey lot up the road then why take the chance on being fvcked over yet again.

All the work the HNW's and fans have put in to make us profitable could be spunked out of the window
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jizzbag Posted on 21/03/2017 10:14
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I think people need to realise what will happen to us in the long term if we don't get outside investment. The ground will suffer therefore our attendances will suffer and that means less money and less success. It's obvious we need outside investment if we want to be a championship (at minimum) club with a better and much improved ground.

Those that say no are understandable given the previous owners but we need to see what this guy wants to do, also do we trust the board to do their due diligence on him? I do. Just because you like playing in the lower leagues and getting cheap tickets for ground such as Crawley's or Morecambe doesn't necessarily mean that it's the best thing for the future of the club or it's supporters.

I say yes with caution.
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Spartansreturn Posted on 21/03/2017 11:01
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Interesting discussion and one probably being monitored. Thoughts are not to jump the gun allow due diligence to be undertaken by the board. Listen to the outcome and what the board think is the best way forward. Then take it to the shareholders to have their say. This will allow full discussion of the business plan and the intentions of the potential new owner. Lets not scare him away before he has chance to speak. He has said nothing yet so lets not pre-judge him hey! This could be an amazing thing for the club and its fans so lets give him a chance! If it isn't viable then we stay the same having lost nothing
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same_old_pompey Posted on 21/03/2017 11:31
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Yes

As always this board (and the News comments section) are not representative of the full population of fans who will get to make a decision.

Would all the people saying 'No' have rathered we never got to the Premier League, won the FA Cup, got into Europe and just festered as a lower table Championship club for eternity?

For anyone under 35 our only taste of top level success was during the period of having some cash. Wouldn't change it for the world.

This is all part of the rollercoaster.

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BettySwallocks Posted on 21/03/2017 14:22
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no thanks; it'll be another 3 ring circus with promises to take us to another level it will all end in tears!
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Bluenote Posted on 21/03/2017 14:43
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By and large these people don't deliver. They use football clubs as a means of money laundering or tax dodging and don't give a to55 about the fans. Pompey's experience and countless examples from around the League makes that clear. This club has a chance to make the fan owned model succeed and gain the respect of the football world. It's a model that can certainly get us to the Championship, which most would admit is our natural home. The ground can be rebuilt in stages through loans and debentures. If anybody wants to invest in this model then great, but if they want to subvert it through total control it should be no deal.
This obsession with the Prem and building a big club baffles me - look what it did last time.

I'd rather have an honest, fan owned sustainable club playing in it's quirky historical home than be the plaything of an American spiv....or a Russian/Indian/Chinese....Vulcan.
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foreverblue62 Posted on 21/03/2017 14:48
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Future investment is essential and inevitable. Whilst we remember the grim days of fake and rip-off owners and many of us never care to see the Premiership again with its overpaid prima donnas, somewhere down the line the next generation of supporters will be tired of hearing us talk of Jamo and Sol etc and want to see it for themselves. They won't be content with lge 1/2 and to achieve that will need money. Is this the right guy or the right time.. well only the current men at the helm can decide. We have to rely on their judgement and advice before we taken a vote should it ever get that far. In the meantime for God's sake let's not forget that the next 8 games are currently more important!! PUP
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Norse-returns Posted on 21/03/2017 14:58
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What is wrong with additional shares being made available?
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oi_oi_saveloy Posted on 21/03/2017 15:11
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Being fan owned can only get us so far and from what I've seen it won't even get us to the championship.
The ground needs rebuilding because as much as I love the place it can only last so long and she's on her last legs now so we need investment from somewhere so it's gonna happen sooner or later.
I have no interest in getting to the premier with their plastic fans and happy clappy paper clappers but I'd like to see us in the championship at the least. I've watched Pompey in all 4 division's and back again which I wouldn't change for anything but I don't want to see us stay in the 4th because it's fvckin awful.†
The championship and a refurbished fratton park will do for me but to get there we have to have the investment and at least for once this bloke ticks all the boxes and I can't see a chancer wanting to take over at a 4th division club so he might just be the real deal.
Having said all that we've been stung more times than a bee keeper so I'm always going to be a bit dubious.
I hope he's for real because we deserve it after all we've been through but in football deserving's got nothing to do with it.
Let's give him a chance and see what he's like before we start slating him like some dins on here are already doing.

rudy we're not interested in what a scummer thinks but thanks for your input.
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oi_oi_saveloy Posted on 21/03/2017 15:12
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Just because he's the first to show interest doesn't make him a wrong'un.
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blueinbrum2 Posted on 21/03/2017 15:28
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Yes
if the Board and Trust decide Eisner is the real deal. To address Fratton Park and be competitive on the pitch outside investment will be needed hopefully in the not too distant future. Where will it come from? Unlikely to be the existing 'owners' so we have to give Eisner the opportunity to show he can deliver in a responsible manner.
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Norse-returns Posted on 21/03/2017 15:34
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Eisner on Disney:

"We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is our only objective."

'Under the more than twenty year reign of Michael Eisner, who eventually lost his position as Chairman in 2004, Disney earned the title of Business Week's Worst Managed Board of Directors in 1997.'

He is also a CFR member (that is council on foreign relations).

I'm sure I'll be able to dig up more crap on him.
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Albie01 Posted on 21/03/2017 15:52
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See if you can find another one of those fake youtube conspiracies. [:D]
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Deebo Posted on 21/03/2017 15:55
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He's started his own this time.
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Mudgy_Pitts Posted on 21/03/2017 15:57
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Tend towards 'Yes' if we receive sufficiently watertight assurances that the club will remain protected. It is, after all, the only way we will be able to maintain a position in the Championship (or above) and finance the necessary ongoing improvement/development costs. That said, he is no spring chicken and I would also want to see evidence that his investment company would not pull the plug when he does a Marcus on us.
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Bluenote Posted on 21/03/2017 16:11
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If he's a member of the Council on Foreign Relations Norse then his mucky mitts will be all over 9/11, the Iraq and Afghanistan conflicts and the Syrian clusterfvck.
Still - he's got loadsamoney so let's have him eh?
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Norse-returns Posted on 21/03/2017 16:18
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Indeed bluenote.

I mean, the fact that he is ex-disney is mucky enough, but CFR......
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oi_oi_saveloy Posted on 21/03/2017 16:36
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Oh so now he was involved in 9/11 lraq and Afghanistan.
Do you two write fiction novels and children's novels?
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Norse-returns Posted on 21/03/2017 16:45
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I'm writing one at the moment saveloy. You inspired the main character.

It's called 'silly sausage'.

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Norse-returns Posted on 21/03/2017 16:45
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Seriously though saveloy, CFR is bad news.
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oi_oi_saveloy Posted on 21/03/2017 16:57
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This is why you have to go to football match's on your own.

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Southstander Posted on 21/03/2017 18:40
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[V]
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Southstander Posted on 21/03/2017 18:44
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Dont know why I thumbed down ??? I'm a yes in principle outside investment is inevitable if not now it will be and it will be needed a lot sooner than we think and if the guy is the right fit then why not ?
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cunninglinguist Posted on 21/03/2017 19:16
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Post Gaydamak, we would probably have snatched this man's arm off, in preference to fan ownership.
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Peter_Mellors_Got_No_Hair Posted on 21/03/2017 21:30
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The noises that have come out from the board over the last year indicate that they all know that we are limited the way we are.

I'm thinking of IM saying he would think about stepping down. MC saying last week we would have a mid table div 1 budget, and MW comments in the news, and news of capacity reductions.

Whether this guy is the real deal or not, is a matter for the board and shareholders to decide, and as they are made up of our fans, i'm positive that any decision, however hard it is, will be made with the clubs interests at heart and not for money reasons.

What I would say though, is that as hard as it would be to leave Fratton Park, a ground that has proudly been the home to double league champions and double fa cup holders, it is necessary to ensure that we have a future where we can compete, as well as making us an attractive investment.

It was a truly stunning effort by the fans to save the club. One, which when pushed to stand up and be counted, not many other clubs fan bases would be prepared to do. So it would be a travesty, if after all that, we were allowed to wallow and struggle.

New grounds seem to attract support that some of the clubs around us, traditionally never had. Certainly nowhere near our record 51,385!

So I would support anybody who can deliver us a new ground.

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Norse-returns Posted on 21/03/2017 21:35
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Peter, you're opening the next can of worms.

Where will the new stadium be, if there is one?
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Trebilcock70 Posted on 21/03/2017 22:27
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Providing he's doing it for all the right reasons and the Trust keep a shareholding and something legally binding is put in place to safeguard the future of the club when he walks away - then its got to be a yes.
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exiledpompeyfan Posted on 22/03/2017 12:48
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It's too early to make an informed decision either way til we hear more from Eisner and the club. Outside investment is inevitable sooner or later but in my opinion, we need to wait to see how discussions go and see what both sides have to say
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Gooders Posted on 22/03/2017 12:56
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well if he is truly minted he can buy my share for a million pounds and not a penny less!!![:o)]
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Peter_Mellors_Got_No_Hair Posted on 22/03/2017 20:25
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I don't know where, there aren't too many big pockets of land left on the island bar the Shooting range, Tipner, Port Solent, Milton Common, Rugby Camp, UoP Milton Campus.

What did the steering group come up with?

Lets be honest, we've never had anyone with enough money to properly test the water, since we were formed.
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FEPete Posted on 23/03/2017 16:04
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In principle yes. Under the current regime we're a League 1 club, maybe bottom half of the Championship if we're lucky and playing in a dilapidated stadium that really needs a lot of work done on it so we need the money. I know some are happy just existing in the lower leagues (i've noticed some that try winding up scummers by calling them a club that just exists seem happy with us being a club that just exists in the lower leagues [rle]) but what's the point of us bothering to play games if the most some of our idiot fans want is to exist in the Championship at best? Yes we've had some awful owners but not all potential new owners are bad for the club
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Stanley-H-Tweedle Posted on 23/03/2017 16:09
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Shut up you fcuking retard [^]
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BlueView Posted on 23/03/2017 16:21
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Gooders, do you have an idea what will happen to your share?
Will it become null and void?
Will you get all of your money back?
Will you get an increased amount back?
Will it be converted into a 5 year season ticket?
What will happen to the HNW crowd who put in £100.000.
Is there anything written down in the articles of the club to give us a clue?
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Gooders Posted on 23/03/2017 16:24
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Blue View I have no idea. and TBH if my 1k share went up in smoke I dont care because when I gave it to the club I never expected it back. It has served its purpose.

That said judas brown envelope 1 year free pass in vegas and as many hookers as I can handle and he can do what he wants!!!
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BlueView Posted on 23/03/2017 16:27
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Last time, I went into the guildhall with my £1,000 cheque to save the club, along with about 125 others, I was given my money back in full once the club stabilised.
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streetrifle Posted on 23/03/2017 16:31
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Yes, I think its called staring a gifthorse in the mouth.This is a chance of a lifetime for our club if we get the terms right, which I am sure we will.
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BlueView Posted on 23/03/2017 16:38
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It comes down to who exactly owns the club.
And would a billionaire actually pick it up for nothing?
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prbblue Posted on 23/03/2017 21:00
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I think fan ownership is important and part of what Pompey is. It doesn't mean that we should not listen to potential investors, especially when FP is only getting older and more dilapidated. If the buyer offered PST a fair amount to reduce its holding to say 25%, we would not need to give up our prized shares and we could still call the club ours with a significant voice on the Board. The new owner could then have a real sense of ownership and it seems that they want to invest in the stadium which can only be good. A dividend would be a nice reward for those who dug deep to save the club without any hope that we would see a penny of it again. I think the red lines for me will be continued fan ownership even at a reduced %, assurances about investment and no debt raised against the club and a fair price to PST during the purchase.
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Bedblockers Posted on 23/03/2017 21:13
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In principle Yes. The guy seems legit and clearly has the dosh. I have no reason to not believe his original reasoning on investment into Portsmouth.
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AI_BLUEFOX Posted on 23/03/2017 21:52
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No.

Where's the business plan that says how Eisner's investment increases our capacity or capability to generate increased shareholder value? All I am seeing are ideas about increasing our revenue but increasing our cost base by a greater proportion. Hence the need for the benevolent billionaire with deep pockets.

We'll be a rich man's plaything and the day he gets bored or shuffles off this mortal coil will be no different to the day when the money laundering gun runner had his assets frozen. The whole financial house of cards will come tumbling down again.
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