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Anonymous_coward Posted on 21/04/2017 13:34
Bouncer hits a woman
 
 
Don't know if this has been posted already but....

Did anyone see this video last week where a bouncer hit a woman in retaliation to her trying to smack him one?

Interested to know whether you think he or she was in the wrong?

Link: Bouncer
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japsterbor0 Posted on 21/04/2017 13:40

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Saw this earlier. My first thought was 'she deserved that'! She took it well though. [:D]

But on reflection, a 'professional' shouldn't have reacted in that way ... restraining her would have been a better option. We all know what a single punch can lead to, so they were both lucky on this occasion.
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vuvuzelas Posted on 21/04/2017 13:40

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I think it would be very difficult to portray her actions as anything other than wrong.
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Anonymous_coward Posted on 21/04/2017 13:42

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I think restraining her would have been the ideal solution.

But if someone comes up to you and takes a swipe is your instant response to defend yourself or retaliate.

Struggling to decide as I've always been under the impression that it is wrong to hit a woman.
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Brick_Tamland Posted on 21/04/2017 13:48

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Both in the wrong: she shouldn't have taken a swing at him, and the doorman had (impressively) managed to get out of the way of the punch. Lamping the woman was unnecessary force for that situation.
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thebugle Posted on 21/04/2017 13:48

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She wants to take swings at people, she should expect them to swing back.

Don't get all this
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Anonymous_coward Posted on 21/04/2017 13:49

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Credit to her - she took the punch quite well!!

[:D]
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vuvuzelas Posted on 21/04/2017 13:51

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Its funny how differently people think. Im.already finding myself disagreeing with other peoples views on this even though there are only a handful of comments.
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 21/04/2017 13:51

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I've always believed it's wrong to hit anyone, if you instigate physical violence against another person I think that person has every right to use force to defend themselves regardless of if you are a man or a woman.

The question shouldn't be whether or not they're male or female, it should be about what is reasonable force.
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Kingy Posted on 21/04/2017 13:54

Bouncer hits a woman

 
Equal rights
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John67 Posted on 21/04/2017 13:55

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Looks to me like his punch was an instinctive reaction rather than premeditated. She deserved it TBF [:D]
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Brick_Tamland Posted on 21/04/2017 13:55

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And equal wrongs
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Muttley Posted on 21/04/2017 14:04

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Looks like he slaps rather than punches. No-one really harmed and both want to let it go. I think it is best left at that. Though her social media excuse that "he started it" seems both infantile and incorrect. To be fair, she is cursed with the imaginative moniker of "Mickyla"... no wonder she's angry.
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OneJobOnTeesside Posted on 21/04/2017 14:06

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Agree the doorlad could have handled it better and been more professional. Don't think the fact that it's a woman should make a difference though. This just proves he isnt sexist, but probably a bit of a tw*t.

I had an incident in the Empire years ago. Was in the lads toilet and was walking back out when this girl barged in to me (yes in the gents). I had a go at her as I was off balance and she sent me flying. Anyway that was that until she came out and threw a right hook. Tried to hit me again and I managed to grab her wrist and push her away with the other arm. People got in the way and she ran off to tell on me. I knew whose side the doorlads would take so I moved in to the crowd to blend in. I'm glad I didnt hit her back but don't think I would have been in the wrong if I did
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Angelmatty Posted on 21/04/2017 15:04

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Anyone who has worked as a doorman/bouncer will tell you woman are worse than men when it comes to trouble

They think they can take liberties and get away with it

She deserved all she got

Her excuse he stopped her dancing on a table says it all
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OneJobOnTeesside Posted on 21/04/2017 15:08

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AngelMatty [^]

We don't truly know in this particular case but we have all seen women like that in bars/clubs. Walk around with a chip on their shoulder thinking they can do what they like. Like a ticking timebomb just ready to kick off.
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Rizla Posted on 21/04/2017 15:10
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'Credit to her - she took the punch quite well!!'

Punch? I wouldn't even call it a slap. As for detaining her, I wouldn't. She sounds the type that would have you for groping etc..
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London_Boro Posted on 21/04/2017 15:49

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I always think if you're big enough to dish it out, you should be expected to take it in equal measure.

Maybe she'll think twice in future about her actions.
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Norman_Conquest Posted on 21/04/2017 18:22

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Ferkin hell, she would frighten a bogey man.

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glover_elbow Posted on 21/04/2017 18:29

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Cant believe the pathetic bullies on here who think it's ok to retaliate and hit a woman if she strikes first. Sorry it's completely unacceptable for any man to hit a woman. The bouncer was hardly in danger and actions were completely unjustified.
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nashvagas2 Posted on 21/04/2017 19:01

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Fug me she's a Model?[xx(]
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Kingy Posted on 21/04/2017 19:09

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is this the comedy from the BBC about the hospital in Hartlepool ?
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Bobby_Braithwaite Posted on 21/04/2017 19:16

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"Hi, this is me in the video! He hits like a bitch!"

She sounds a right charmer.
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lionhunter Posted on 21/04/2017 21:51
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She's in the wrong for throwing punches no matter what he did to start it ...if he did.
However looking at they incident , he's worse .
One.
He's a bloke who ultimately will be a lot stronger .
Two .
Probably trained fighter .
Three if he isn't he's still a trained Professional , just like the Police who aren't allowed to punch women back even if some have or do.
Four No attempt to restrain on that video footage .

These places allow them in shiiitfaced and then serve them more alcohol when it clear they're off their tits.

You don't start trading punches with women / young piiiisssed up lasses ffs.If he'd connected and the state she was in and in heels , she goes down and hits her head its manslaughter .Then what twaaat he would be , also on his conscience for the rest if life , bad enough a man fffs but a woman .? [|)] He wants to give his head a wobble ffs .I wonder how he would feel if it was his daughter / sister etc or maybe if lads start swinging at some of these female bouncers .Drunken blokes no it's wrong to swing at female bouncers , yet sober bouncers start swinging at drunken women ... [V]

He wants a pasting .[^]
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American_Mary Posted on 21/04/2017 22:58

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You never hit a woman. Provocation or not, hitting a woman in the face is a cowardly act, especially for someone who is supposedly trained in diffusing situations like that shown.
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CafeDelMar Posted on 21/04/2017 23:02

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'is this the comedy from the BBC about the hospital in Hartlepool ?'

No.
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swordtrombonefish Posted on 21/04/2017 23:07

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I would never hit a woman - just think it is wrong.

Will say this though, back in my youth (seems a hundred years ago now) we were stood on the stairway to get into Madison per the usual Friday night. As we got to the top a guy comes sauntering up from nowhere and tries to get into the queue in front of two lasses.

One pulls him back and he turns and slaps her...she hit him with about four punches in no time at all and KO'd him. I learned later that 'Lorna' was a fightin' girl and nobody took a lend of her!
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vuvuzelas Posted on 21/04/2017 23:15

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"Just like the Police who aren't allowed to punch women"

I dont think there is any truth in that statement mate. Its all about the circumstances.
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American_Mary Posted on 21/04/2017 23:22

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The police aren't allowed to punch anyone, they are allowed to use reasonable force
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swordtrombonefish Posted on 21/04/2017 23:25

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Experience tells me the police will do what they can get away with 'in a given set of circumstances'

I have the scars to prove it, but on my own against two 'officers of the law' on a long lonely road at 02:30am.

Yeah...rules.
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vuvuzelas Posted on 21/04/2017 23:32

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Punching someone can be reasonable force in certain circumstances.
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lionhunter Posted on 21/04/2017 23:35

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Mary I knew as soon as I written that someone would interpret that like that.I know they aren't allowed to punch anyone but as I was particularly taking about a woman I just said woman .

I actually know of a couple of coppers who have punched back one was deemed reasonable force given the circumstances and one wasn't .
The one that wasn't went to caught and got not guilty .

I also know of a copper in the eighties get six month for throwing a pregnant woman on the floor and kicking her .He wasn't aware she was pregnant at the time but still that went against him too.[^]
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vuvuzelas Posted on 21/04/2017 23:43

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Maybe Im just misinterpreting what you mean. I was reading that you are under the belief that Police Officers cannot punch women regardless of the circumstance. If thats what you mean then you are most definitely wrong. If thats not what you mean then im sorry for misunderstanding your point.
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dsr-burnley Posted on 21/04/2017 23:45

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The idea that it's always wrong to hit a woman is nonsense. What if she's coming at you with a knife? What if she hits you twenty times? What if she's bigger and stronger than you?

I doubt a male bouncer would be allowed to restrain a woman, any more than he is allowed to hit her. Is it even possible to restrain someone who is completely off her head, without use of handcuffs, without risk of injury, and without risk of touching her somewhere you shouldn't?

File this under the story "woman went looking for trouble; found it". He didn't hit her properly, anyway - she didn't fall over. He might be well advised not to do it again, however.
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fools_gold Posted on 21/04/2017 23:50
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The thick cow even managed to misspell 'anal' in her twitter bio.

Link: Link
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lionhunter Posted on 21/04/2017 23:53

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Muttley things aren't always what they seem on camera .Bouncers are known to goad people especially weak drunken people and she will have been an easy target for goading and getting a reaction out of and no threat to him .A Young Slim Drunken Woman who looked like she was struggling to stand up and in heels .
He should be ashamed of himself , he stood there and deliberately took her swing to look dicky rock, no attempt to move out of the way if it and then wallop this is what I can do and even though it probably wasn't his hardest , it was delivered with a message , 'hit me and this is what you get back' ., ' I hit twice as hard ' , even when hardly trying ' [V]
He's stood there , chest puffed out , as proud as a peaXXXXXX .
Twaaats like him don't last long on the doors doing stuff like that .
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lionhunter Posted on 21/04/2017 23:53

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Muttley things aren't always what they seem on camera .Bouncers are known to goad people especially weak drunken people and she will have been an easy target for goading and getting a reaction out of and no threat to him .A Young Slim Drunken Woman who looked like she was struggling to stand up and in heels .
He should be ashamed of himself , he stood there and deliberately took her swing to look dicky rock, no attempt to move out of the way if it and then wallop this is what I can do and even though it probably wasn't his hardest , it was delivered with a message , 'hit me and this is what you get back' ., ' I hit twice as hard ' , even when hardly trying ' [V]
He's stood there , chest puffed out , as proud as a peaXXXXXX .
Twaaats like him don't last long on the doors doing stuff like that .
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Harbottle Posted on 22/04/2017 00:00

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If you give it you've got to expect to take it
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mikeyyyy Posted on 22/04/2017 07:16

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Women kick and scream for equality.
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joseph99 Posted on 22/04/2017 07:45

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As I am not exposed to physical threats in my day job, if it was me in the same shoes as the bouncer my instinct would have been to use physical restraint. There again, she looked that crazy and classless she would probably claim sexual assault. Difficult job done by, in general, people of low IQ so compromise is not part of their psyche. Welcome to the UK 2017
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Pogatetz_Ate_My_Hamster_ Posted on 22/04/2017 07:50

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"The idea that it's always wrong to hit a woman is nonsense."

Exactly.

I hate this whole "you should never hit a woman" idea, how about "you should never hit a person". You can kill someone with one punch, people should physically assault anyone.

If a person attempts to physically assault you whether they're are male or female you should defend yourself with reasonable force. I've seen over the years guys come into work with terrible cuts and bruises suffered as a result of domestic abuse at the hands of women because they believed it was wrong to fight back. It's nonsense, defend yourself.
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Nero Posted on 22/04/2017 08:07

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There's another video of her posted on Twitter. Her behaviour is terrible and you can tell she's looking for trouble. A female bouncer attempts to calm her down it seems.

I don't condone striking women but understand why the lad did it.
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American_Mary Posted on 22/04/2017 08:22

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Absolutely defend yourself and as you say one punch could kill which works both ways, imagine if he'd punched her and he'd killed her.

As for domestic abuse, hitting back isn't going to solve the problem the person on the receiving end needs to extract themselves from that relationship.

It's a little bit unsettling that there seems to be some kind of justification in using violence against women, if she has a knife is an extreme example of something, which becomes I didn't know she didn't have a knife so I hit her anyway.
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Rayman Posted on 22/04/2017 08:34

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Sometimes at away games one can't avoid pubs with bouncers but otherwise I never use them.
Am I the only one who detects a faint whiff of crime?
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LetsGoJoe Posted on 22/04/2017 08:48
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People say "he could have handled it better" but i say its a reality check that she obviously needed. I go out drinking in town and cant remember the last time i DIDNT see some pi$$ed up bunch of women trying to be clever with blokes.

The question i ask is this.....will she think twice before taking a swing at a bloke in the future? Absolutely! Sometimes people need a slap just to let them know 'you can NOT just do as you please when you have had a drink'

I was slapped in the face by some TOWE wannabe outside a pizza shop because i would not give her a fag. My first thought was 'i would end you with 1 punch you f$king skank' but then obviously because she has a pair of t!ts and equal rights only apply when they want them too, i just laughed at her.

The video is a good thing in that it is a stark reminder to the drunken clowns. You cannot get away with acting as you please because you have a pair of t!ts.
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London_Boro Posted on 22/04/2017 09:51

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A very good friend of mine split up with a girl years ago, in the months to follow she would lay into him every time she saw him and he stood and took it. She was vicious, really beat the hell out of him some times.

One day it just got too much so he gave her one firm right hook.

So according to some on here, hes wrong because you cant hit women.

Do I think he was he in the wrong?? Hell no I said, he put up with it for ages, how it took him so long was the only thing that puzzled me!
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HarrysGarage Posted on 22/04/2017 10:14

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Still can't quite grasp how, after years of battling for equality, so many still believe in special treatment for females.

Think it's called 'Benevolent Sexism' and most Feminists find it as offensive as Hostile Sexism.
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lionhunter Posted on 22/04/2017 10:23

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Disagree .
Firstly regarding her class as a woman , drink to tends not determine which class it affects or indeed expose .
You can't tell what class of a person a drunken woman is only how they look at that stage .
Secondly they sold her the drink and where happy to take her entrance fee etc and continue to re fuel her .
This equal rights thing yes if it's moving pallets of frozen food etc on a pallets truck not raising your hands and smacking a woman who's piiiisssed stumbling about practically walking on stilts ( in her high heels ) Take Notice Because IF Any Of You Decide To Do The Same Thing You Might Not Be So Lucky .
Maybe just maybe she would go down and smack her head and possibly killed .Then its Manslaughter , Jail for a long time , and no job and if it was my daughter that's when your problems will begin [^].
A piisssed little skinny drunk woman taking a swing that he could have moved out of the way of , but he decided to show everyone how hard he was by taking it and throwing one back .Posturing as proud as punch .
He should have moved out of the way , or failing that "The Hardman "should have took it and restrained her , instead of trying to show how clever he is with his hands because he didn't look clever to me .

Also cameras don't always portray the true picture , there's no sound , so nobody has any idea of what he was saying either .He could have been egging her on to have a pop .

There's no justification and manty of you would be spitting feathers if you seen your own family members out on the lash .You see plenty of young lads taking a swing down the town ( some could easily be your sons and daughters , I think you'd think differently then ) and most are restrained, because most bouncers relise the consequences of hitting a drunken man on concrete , however this oddball seems to think he had justification Why ? Was he in fear for his safety ? [:D]

There's good bouncers and rsole ones and he's rsole .
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HarrysGarage Posted on 22/04/2017 10:31

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Sorry, I think I should clarify that I don't think it's right for a 'Bouncer' to punch anyone, male or female.

Their role is more deflection, assuagement and ultimately restraint.
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gallivant Posted on 22/04/2017 10:46

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How daft am I, clicked on this post cos I thought it was about cricket.....DOHHHHH, [;)]
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Nero Posted on 22/04/2017 11:14

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Lionhunter - The other video on Twitter has sound. What is clear is there's a crowd laughing at her. She's definitely looking for trouble of some sort. I get the impression she was kicked out of the pub then started kicking off.
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lionhunter Posted on 22/04/2017 11:34

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Your probably right [^] Nero but like I say some responsibility is with the place it's self and nobody seen how he reacted in taking her out .
I do however understand that generally trying to reason with someone in that state is usually impossible but like I say what my grievience is the striking back and the manner of it .All situations are different had it been a violent male then maybe he might have had too however he'd have probably had plenty of back up or been on the phone to the bobbies however because it was a woman he dealt with it his way and that's his way ? The wrong way .That could have escalated if some lads had have seen that and been worse than it ought to have been .
As for hitting women or even men who are that drunk who can barely stand up is cowardice regardless of if they swing at you .It happens all the time in every town and City and if everyone reacted like that it would be a burden on the NHS drunken men and women being knocked out left right and centre , doctors and nurses and surgeons working over time treating people and in some cases trying to keep them alive .
We have enough stabbings and shootings and drunks fuelled with drink and drugs inflicting damage physically on each other without sober bouncers adding to the problem by planting drunken Women who can't walk or drunk men who can't walk for that matter .

He could have walks back in the Club but thought I will show you , that type of attitude gets you hurt eventually .
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Jonny_Ingbar Posted on 22/04/2017 12:17

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I think this idea that you 'should never hit a woman' a bit cringeworthy, as if its ok to hit a man. Very chivalrous [:D]

Door staff are professional people (in some broader sense admittedly) and the punch or slap he gave her was unnecessary, but equally I guess he'd argue it was instinctive.
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lionhunter Posted on 22/04/2017 12:38

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He didn't need to be in that position .He was the one who was sober and thinking clearly and put himself and left himself in that position .He could have went back inside .He got to do what I think he was looking for , give her slap if she puts her hands on him .
If he's hit her he's going to a busy lad because plenty of people will have a pop where you might need to have a go without having a go with the ones you don't need to have a go with .
Looks like he may have moved away from Cameras outside the pub / club too .Hiwever they incident was caught on a phone camera.He probably would have thought twice had he relised it was going to be filmed .
It was no instinct and if it was , it's wrong .
If a bloke was piiiissed up setting his lip up and trying to much me thers no way I'd hit him Nevermind a woman , these people get killed and you go to Jail .
A normal fight you can brace yourself when someone is about to land drunks can't it's almost like hitting someone from behind and that's why they get killed .
Even a push on here would have knocked her over and maybe killed her but atleast you might have a bit if justification and not intentionally tried to physically cause her damage unlike what he did there .
He was a little man acting like a big coward .

She didn't appear to be an angel either , but at no stage in his training has been told to strike back , it's reasonable force and that wasn't reasonable force .
He was making a statement .
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lionhunter Posted on 22/04/2017 17:00

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Your probably right [^] Nero but like I say some responsibility is with the place it's self and nobody seen how he reacted in taking her out .
I do however understand that generally trying to reason with someone in that state is usually impossible but like I say what my grievience is the striking back and the manner of it .All situations are different had it been a violent male then maybe he might have had too however he'd have probably had plenty of back up or been on the phone to the bobbies however because it was a woman he dealt with it his way and that's his way ? The wrong way .That could have escalated if some lads had have seen that and been worse than it ought to have been .
As for hitting women or even men who are that drunk who can barely stand up is cowardice regardless of if they swing at you .It happens all the time in every town and City and if everyone reacted like that it would be a burden on the NHS drunken men and women being knocked out left right and centre , doctors and nurses and surgeons working over time treating people and in some cases trying to keep them alive .
We have enough stabbings and shootings and drunks fuelled with drink and drugs inflicting damage physically on each other without sober bouncers adding to the problem by planting drunken Women who can't walk or drunk men who can't walk for that matter .

He could have walks back in the Club but thought I will show you , that type of attitude gets you hurt eventually .
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