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zorro_mfc Posted on 20/03/2017 18:25
White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims
 
 
I'm not sure how closely you are following this story over in the US, but today's developments have been extraordinary.

From the NY Post

The White House on Monday defiantly refused to back down from President Trump’s claim that President Obama wiretapped Trump Tower — despite FBI Director James Comey’s testimony that there was no evidence that it had ever happened.

“Following this testimony it’s clear nothing has changed,” administration spokesman Sean Spicer told reporters at his daily press briefing.

Comey, along with National Security Agency Director Michael Rogers, both told the committee there was no evidence to back the president’s repeated claims, which have also been disputed by other members of Congress from both parties.

Spicer also predicted the FBI’s investigation into ties between team Trump and Russia will reveal there was no connection.
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zorro_mfc Posted on 20/03/2017 18:29

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
This is also part of a wider investigation into links between the trump campaign and Moscow.

From NBC

The FBI is investigating whether the Trump campaign colluded with a covert Russian operation to interfere with the election, FBI Director James Comey told Congress Monday — and he refuted the president's baseless claim that his predecessor wiretapped his communications.
Comey's confirmation in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee that the Trump campaign was the subject of a U.S. counterintelligence investigation was a revelation that could shadow the Trump presidency.
The FBI director also dealt the president's credibility a blow when he said he "has no information that supports" Trump's allegation from two weeks ago that President Obama ordered surveillance of his communications in Trump Tower during the campaign.
Only courts grant permission for electronic surveillance, Comey told lawmakers, and "no individual in the United States can direct electronic surveillance of anyone."
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jam69 Posted on 20/03/2017 18:36

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
no one seems to bat a eyelid these days at leaders telling porkies, smaller scale i know but when our own PM can stand up in parliament and lie over the sweetheart council deal one day and then claim the tories fully cooperated in the election fraud investigation despite needing a court injunction to comply a few days later is shocking.
shes even convinced most of the country shes pro brexit.
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sasboro1 Posted on 20/03/2017 18:42

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
Trump and his gang are guilty of something. They know they are going to get caught eventually once all the evidence is sorted. In the meantime they continue to deny stuff and sling mud at everything else.hoping it muddies the water and they get away with it. Trump is a compulsive liar and hypocrite
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zorro_mfc Posted on 20/03/2017 18:44

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Sas exactly but it's ok for us to say it and the media commentators etc but for the FBI and the NSA to basically call their commander in chief a liar in a senate hearing under oath is incredible.

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littlejimmy Posted on 20/03/2017 18:57

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
When Comey brought the e-mail stuff on Clinton to light just before the election, Trump was all over it. Now he'll say Comey's a liar. And the Trump supporters will lap it up.

Jam, the lies of May get worse by the day, but she continues to get away with it.
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sasboro1 Posted on 20/03/2017 19:02

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Seems with politics these days you have the licence to say and promise anything with no accountability or legal challenges.

Don't get how Trump gets away with all those personal accusations during the campaigns with no legal challenges
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zorro_mfc Posted on 20/03/2017 19:07

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
Sas there was talk last week that Obama could take legal defamation case out on him as a private citizen.

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swordtrombonefish Posted on 20/03/2017 19:09

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
Trump is a really interesting phenomenon. No matter how outrageous his claims (backed up by zero evidence so in reality the very #FAKENEWS he purports to be against) he is believed by his supporters.

It baffles me as to how supposedly intelligent people can be hoodwinked in this way and yet it is happening daily.

He and his cronies are actually taking money out of the pockets of their supporters with new legislation etc, and they still lap it up.

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jam69 Posted on 20/03/2017 19:53

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
There's some on here who think Labour caused the world recession and the Tories borrow less.
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BobFleming Posted on 20/03/2017 20:12
Edited On: 20/03/2017 20:15
White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
Trump has made the mistake of saying Obama wiretapped Trump tower

Comey can say under oath that there is no evidence obama or his administration wiretapped trump tower as that's the truth and they will never find evidence of it as it didn't happen

If Trump had just said surveillance was ordered during the election and not said Obama or wiretapped he would have been right to say it as there is a FISA order for the FBI to gain access to a server in trump tower in October 2016, a request was also declined in June to monitor trump's server

The order was to look for payments from Russian banks to Trump's server, nothing was found.

So instead of Trump saying he was monitored during an election and nothing was found (which is true) he has instead gone down the nonsense route of blaming Obama personally and saying he was wiretapped which is false

This is what we know of legal surveillance, Trump can be safe in he knowledge that he like every American is illegally spied up on everyday due to the NSA surveillance programme. Not mentioning the Wikileaks vault 7 XXXXXX storm

These Congress oversight committees are pure bait for one liners, carefully constructed questions which lead people to obvious answers for headlines. A complete waste of time

Did Obama tap trump Mr Comey?

There is no evidence of that

Job done, that's the headline as it means trump lied. You can forget the FISA warrant to monitor the trump tower server, you can forget the illegal NSA surveillance programme, forget that no payments from Russia were found, nothing to see here.

Both parties do this, there all full of XXXXXX. Trump is a pathalogical liar who should be kicked out for a number of reasons but two things we do know is that the FBI got a warrant to monitor his server in October and he wasn't/isn't a Russian spy
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SmogOnOuseburn Posted on 20/03/2017 20:13

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"...supposedly intelligent people". Give over!
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coluka Posted on 21/03/2017 06:16

White House refuses to back down over wire tap claims

 
I am almost sure he suffers from Narcissistic personality disorder



Link: Trump behind the scenes?
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zorro_mfc Posted on 21/03/2017 06:32

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He's a sociopathic narcissist.
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