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Evil Posted on 20/03/2017 15:24
Judging individual players - pointless
 
 
In a system where we played so defensively, its almost impossible to judge players, who aren't defenders.

For example, Negredo might not have much movement, but let's face it, he had so much empty space behind him, what's he meant to do?

Whilst I personally don't think De Roon has shown a quarter of worth of what we paid for him - you can't judge the lad.

The team has been poorly set up nearly every game.

Think the last 10 games are going to be the ones to judge the players personally.
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Tuncaythefunguy Posted on 20/03/2017 15:26

Judging individual players - pointless

 
I don't take any notice of ratings tbh. Let the tv fans deal with that.
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1finny Posted on 20/03/2017 15:30

Judging individual players - pointless

 
I agree
Its a bit like judging individual managers and not taking account of players, assistants, chairman etc
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bear66 Posted on 20/03/2017 15:31

Judging individual players - pointless

 
Or even fans
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atypical_boro Posted on 20/03/2017 15:59

Judging individual players - pointless

 
The thing is finny, most of us (certainly me anyway and I'm sure many others) who wanted Karanka out didn't do so because we thought he was a 'XXXXXXe manager', it was because we felt his time here had come to its natural conclusion and he had lost the ability to motivate the playing squad, at this particular club at this particular time.
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mikeyyyy Posted on 20/03/2017 18:50

Judging individual players - pointless

 
Players deserve be sidelined if they need "motivating"

Finny, spot on [^]
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American_Mary Posted on 20/03/2017 19:38

Judging individual players - pointless

 
Atypical I think that's a fair point, however some of the vitriol from some on here has been over the top, out worst ever manager I read on occasion, I agree he had ran his course, but I do feel he got a rougher ride than he deserved.
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atypical_boro Posted on 20/03/2017 20:29

Judging individual players - pointless

 
Fair enough Mary but there'll always be a spectrum of opinions. He was far from our worst ever manager in surely 99.99% of people's eyes, but if one person honestly thinks that, it's up to them.

Can never understand why people don't think footballers need motivating, everyone needs motivating in every profession, but especially people who can afford to retire at 23.
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GazC_MFC Posted on 21/03/2017 07:35

Judging individual players - pointless

 
It's also a case that people have been calling for hella head since about September and before as well

The natural point for a change was probably after the palace game, or that's where I felt anyway
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Evil Posted on 21/03/2017 08:29

Judging individual players - pointless

 
The change was too late, but he was a brilliant manager until December really.

Except for one or two hiccups.

We were in absolute freefall in his first season taking over Mowbray.

Came in, finished 12th when we were heading down.

Then second season he was brilliant and third promoted.

Cant ask for better.

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atypical_boro Posted on 21/03/2017 18:07

Judging individual players - pointless

 
I would agree he did a good job until December. He did do some things I totally disagreed but I couldn't really argue with them as we were doing pretty well.

But then he lost the plot. Maybe it was the pressure getting to him or maybe it was something else, but he didn't handle himself very well past the turn of the year and it started to cost us on the pitch.

Hopefully he won't do the same thing in his next job, but his time here had well and truly run its course.[^]
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Evil Posted on 21/03/2017 18:25

Judging individual players - pointless

 
My sentiments exactly [^]
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